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Comment by Jerry2 | Hacker News Reader

ProtonMail is not safe. To delete someone's ProtonMail account, just print their email onto some posters, put it up in some public place, take a picture of it and tweet it to ProtonMail. And just like that, the email of your target will be probably deleted.

https://i.imgur.com/d9K9Wdm.png

This is not a service you want to use for anything important. If you have some enemies, they can use this method to ban you.

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Are we complaining that you can't put up a poster explicitly designed to incite violence against anti-fascists with a ProtonMail email address? I'd imagine they might also disable your account if you use swastikas as your logo, is that "awful censorship"? If you wanna do that sort of stuff then roll your own ffs. Consider that they might have some form of legal liability.

I thought the complaint was that someone else could put up a poster of your email address with a swastila next to it, and you'd get banned for it.

Please see my other post: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15814530

Liability for what? What if the user used a random string for their address instead? Does one have to pretend to agree with their provider's politics or fear having their accounts deleted?

Some people would probably assume that they won't have to do that, since PM doesn't really present their service as exclusive to people with certain political leanings (unlike, say, riseup).

Exactly this, complaining that a site banned you for breaking ToS is kinda stupid.

What the parent post was saying is that anyone can print out a piece of paper with your mail address on it, complain on twitter, and ProtonMail's feeling-based policy will have you banned.

Feeling-based? That is bulshit.

Do you have other examples than the obvious white-pride hate-group?

We're now 5+ posts down the tree and people still aren't getting the post, probably the reason it was flagged and silenced.

Currently a human is making the judgement call to ban someone, based on their feelings. They could very well be looking at misinformation, but have no way of verifying.

The address banned could be completely unrelated to this hate group, maybe the hate group doesn't even exist, this is the point the poster was making. You easily can misinform, and get someone behind a protonmail address banned.

Please see my other post: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15814530

For future reference, since the OP is now gone, the address in question was YouWillNotReplaceUs@protonmail.com.

This is hyperbolic and dishonest at best. Please leave your memes on reddit.

"Not safe" and YWNRU?

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/09/14/marine-kicked-out-corps...

Their mistake was obviously that they openly justified the ban with human judgement and gave insight into their evidence used for the ban.

They should have simply said "our algorithms determined the likelihood of this account being used to incite violence sufficiently high" and everything had been fine...

dishonest summaries don't help your point.

The email address in question was an unequivocal white-power slogan (https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2017/10/10/when-white-na...) on a poster that called for white-power violence and repeated the same slogan. ProtonMail was quite specific about all of those things together being the cause of the ban.

Unless you're a perfectly innocent citizen who happens to use BloodAndSoil@protonmail.com for completely non-Nazi-related reasons, I don't think you have anything to worry about.

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