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That's not quite right, They still come in descrete packets. It makes sense to call these photons and I've been told it's better to just think of them using statistics rather than to use something like waves or particals.

Not that I understand quantum mechanics.

Ok, tell that to the Standard Model. [1]

Like it or not, in modern physics, "photon" refers to a particular type of discrete lump of momentum and energy. It is a thing you can definitely have one of.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_Model

Then its not a particle with zero mass as often defined.

How do the waves have inertia then? We know for a fact that photons exert force in the surface they strike

"Science has moved", "Photons don't exist".

How do you live with that?