And pulsar does not provide exactly once neither, that is something very important.
And pulsar does not provide exactly once neither, that is something very important.
“Kafka has exactly-once delivery but messaging system x/y/z doesn’t provide it” is also confusing and misleading. Exactly-once is technically effectively-once: “at-least-once” and make the processing of the messages idempotent or “de-duplicated”. This has already been done in the industry for many decades in many mature stream processing engines like heron, flink. It isn’t a really new thing. And many messaging systems like pulsar already provides those primitives (e.g. idempotent producing, at-least-once delivery) for processing jobs to achieve effectively-once very easily. Streamlio folks did a great job about explaining exactly-once and effectively-once. It is worth checking this blog post out -- https://streaml.io/blog/exactly-once/
I think Pulsar itself as a distributed messaging system does provides all the three delivery semantics: at-most-once, at-least-once and effectively-once. It is very easy for people to use and integrate. I don’t think it is difficult to make kafka streams run with pulsar technically. The question is more is there a value to do that, do kafka folks wanna to do that, can the collaboration happen in the ASF?
that's just my two cents.
Pulsar doesn't have any client overhead since it's all tracked on the broker so there's no real need for a separate library. Read, process, and push messages using any code you want, 1 at a time or in batches.
There's no realistic "exactly once" either, it's idempotency or some local cache of processed events used to dedup, you can read more here: https://streaml.io/blog/exactly-once/
- pulsar provides an failover subscription mode, which seems to be the equivalent of partition rebalancing of consumer group in kafka. https://pulsar.incubator.apache.org/docs/latest/getting-star...
- it has partitioned topics as well.
- it supports idempotent producing and have effectively-once delivery semantic.
It seems to have all the kind of primitives for kafka streams. to use.