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I could see HOAs having a problem with porch cubbies.

Also how do you include the code? Address line 2? 3? Memo? I don't always see these.

Fuck HOAs, I guess.

I think it's just address line 2. There's a note on the porch telling them to look for the code. It doesn't always work, but it doesn't really need to. At least not where they live.

> Also how do you include the code? Address line 2? 3? Memo? I don't always see these.

Technically as far as USPS is concerned, there are only 3 lines in an address: name, address, and city/state/zip. Address line 2/3 are non-standard and are disregarded, and you may put whatever delivery instructions in there you want.

If you have an address like "Room 321" that should go as part of Address Line 1.

However, mail is delivered by human beings and generally speaking you can get a surprising amount of mail delivered with non-standard addresses. It used to be quite common to give addresses in the form of "Red House on Easy Street at the top of the hill" and this will still usually make it through. See: "Falsehood: An address will be comprised of road names".

https://www.mjt.me.uk/posts/falsehoods-programmers-believe-a...

Previous HN discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8907301

  Address line 2/3 are non-standard

Addresses spread over multiple lines are just concatenated into one.

Good question. There's only so much room on 4x6 labels. Also I haven't seen a shipping solution that automatically prints customer notes on label. As for address lines, UPS has a finite amount of characters per line before they drop off.

I use a mail service the requires 1 or 2 lines more than a normal address. It's a huge pain filling out shipping address forms online to include the extra info. A lot of it ends up in the Name field. Truncation is also a problem when the label printers truncate more than the form validation.

All of my future projects will have 5 line shipping address forms.

Slightly off topic, but reminded me of an issue I had with Amazon for months. I work for a small agency, the name of which begins with "Box" and then a number. No matter where I put it in the delivery address, Amazon (or the delivery service) would change the business name to "PO Box ..."

I ended up working around it by removing all spaces from the business name in my shipping address.

Ha, must have been a pain for companies that require a real, physical address for whatever. I have most certainly interacted with APIs that had that requirement, and their regexes for refusing PO Boxes were generous, to put it lightly.

There's almost always a "special delivery instructions" field.

Ideally, the cubbie would work like a PostOffice drop box and have a way to insert packages at will with out a code and then the owner has a key to unlock the cubbie.

Perhaps something like a old-fashioned padlock? Anyone can click it shut and then you need the key to unlock it again.

Yeah, that's the traditional package box. This is an example: http://www.pe.com/wp-content/uploads/migration/oh4/oh4e3m-b8...

The issue with that is people know if there's a package in there or not, you can't have more than one delivery service come in a single day, and you run the risk of vandals running off with your lock.

Someone is leaving dog shit on your neighbor's lawn. It's not you, you pick up after your dog, but your neighbor is convinced it's you.

Late one night, your neighbor saunters up to your drop box and empties a bag full of dog shit into it.

You seem to have great neighbors. Maybe ... talk with them?

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