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Hatreon is an alternative that has no speech policing.

It's a good idea with an awful name on it. My first flash thought was a place for funding hate. It did click a moment later that it's a play on the Patreon name more "I hate Patreon" but it just feels.. wrong.

>My first flash thought was a place for funding hate.

That's unfortunately not a bad guess. Go check out some of their "featured creators". It's pretty much the bottom of the hate speech barrel.

Ah so it suffers from (or targets) the reddit->voat problem where a userbase is comprised solely of those rejected from the normal site[].

[] Please forgive the use of the word normal, I couldn't think of a better word. "Default site" or maybe "usual site" might work better

What's wrong with normal? The more popular site is the normal one when it comes to finding content creators. Hatrons or voaters aren't going to be triggered by the use of the word "normal".

Peoples' triggerings aren't my concern, my concern is not conveying what I mean accurately and getting bogged down in the nitty gritty of how I say things rather than what I'm saying

Original site, maybe.

They're the hardest people to defend and that's exactly why their freedom of speech needs to be defended.

When you can't say 'fuck', you can't say 'fuck the draft':

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cohen_v._California

That name can't be serious but a trolling attempt?

Go to the site and have a look at "Featured Creators": Stormfront, Daily Stormer and Richard Spencer will be recognizable to anyone these days. Most of the rest (like Andrew Auernheimer aka Weev) are recognizable to the more online of us. Should make the name and the trollish nature of the name make more sense to know that. It isn't not serious.

It was invite only at the beginning, marketed as the place for the alt-right when Patreon enforced their policies on some high profile people, and those invites went out to specific people so take their whole "open to anyone with no speech limits" with a mountain of salt.

"Free Speech" has become in the current vernacular as merely being right wing hate speech.

I'm convinced that is partly a tactic like the milk and OK sign stuff. Partly serious and based on a real disagreement about hate speech, partly laughing at embracing something and watching everyone else decide that now they have to absolutely denounce it.

Then they do something like organize a campaign of complaints against leftist and vocal anti-alt-right Prof. Ciccariello-Maher at Drexel for his speech, get him put on leave, and laugh at the centrist and leftist rubes falling over themselves in confusion.

Hatreon has also extended an open invite to these content creators: https://twitter.com/Radomysisky/status/922833371075620866

the stream provide interesting information for the context.

they use Stripe for payment and Stripe apparently does not allow "Adult content and services" ( https://stripe.com/us/prohibited-businesses ) among other things.

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