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Is that the one with no headphone jack?

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Yes, the Pixel 2 has no headphone jack.

https://store.google.com/product/pixel_2_specs

Great to see them moving along with the times.

Phones won't come with headphone jacks anymore. Deal with it.

Please don't do this here.

There's got to be a word for the attitude you are running here.. I can't think of it.

Anyway, as an owner of wireless headphones and wired headphones I definitely wouldn't choose a phone without an aux in. My wireless headphones have stayed uncharged for months - i'm not yet ready to be responsible for charging two devices every night.

> There's got to be a word for the attitude you are running here.. I can't think of it.

"Fatalism"? It's the same attitude that leads some people to roll over and agree that "privacy is dead -- get used to it." The replacement of the headphone jack by a port that is worse in every way, by wireless 'phones that are unreliable and need to be charged every few hours, or by an expensive dongle makes life worse for everyone except headphone and dongle salesmen. The rest of us should not simply roll over and take it.

I agree. The issue is, as a longtime iPhone user, I'm being forced into a no-headphone-jack phone. I need to get a new phone in the next month or so, and my major options are:

1. iphone SE - seems great, but given its internals are 6S, it will be updated into slow performance sooner than my other options. 2. iphone SE 2 - rumored to come out in the next 4-6 months, but who's to say it will have a headphone jack? 3. iphone 7/8/X - dongle land 4. Switch to android - apart from standard friction of using a new OS (probably not a very big deal), I may need to re-buy a number of apps. And the one android phone I was counting on, the Pixel 2, now also doesn't have a headphone jack. Thanks google.

I'm actually tempted to just buy an android phone by Blu or something; this overpriced hardware seemed almost worth it when it was at least not taking away features that I use everyday.

Is that the best version of not rolling over and taking it? Ugh. If anyone has any suggestions, I'd appreciate them.

Well, be careful buying a Blu phone if you value your privacy..

https://www.cnet.com/news/these-cheap-phones-are-costing-you...

https://www.theverge.com/2017/7/31/16072786/amazon-blu-suspe...

Yikes, thanks for the heads-up. A friend of mine who also values privacy was telling me how much he likes his Blu phone ... that's really a shame.

I'd buy a few iPhone SEs as spares. In a similar vein, I currently use an iPod Shuffle on runs and hikes, because it's cheap, light, and durable. They retailed for $50 from Apple, and now that they're discontinued, they seem to be selling for $80+ on Amazon. I wish I had invested in a stockpile, so I could sell most at a profit, and keep a few for personal use.

Buy a refurbished 6s or SE.

I don't know how you use your phone, but I don't forsee my 6s becoming unusable in the next year or two for my use cases (WhatsApp, maps, taking photos, checking email). Granted iOS 11 (and High Sierra) have been notoriously buggy. :\

It'll probably be outdated sooner, but I love the SE. I actually just got a new one to replace the one I lost and it was, compared to the new ones, cheap. It just has the right form factor and as of yet I haven't noticed any slowness.

The iPhone 6S might be the last one worth buying

If want wireless headphones that are reliable and don't need to be charged every few hours, take a look at the Bose SoundLink OEs.

> It's the same attitude that leads some people to roll over and agree that "privacy is dead -- get used to it."

Spot on. I've been very vocal about my opposition to privacy. Read my comments history by any chance?

You are absolutely wrong about privacy. Privacy is fundamentally important for functional human society.

Defeatism?

Stockholm Syndrome. Defeatism implies that these people feel defeated and have given up. Instead, I get the feeling people are trying to spin this as "progress"

> i'm not yet ready to be responsible for charging two devices every night.

If not now, when?

No. There has to be a word for people like you... Conservatism?

The parent means that you must deal with advancing technology rather than clinging to the past.

False premise: "advancing technology". There's nothing "advanced" about making a device less useful. The deficiency outweighs the benefit.

Removing obsolete features is advancing. Like removal of floppy drives, phone keypads etc.

Agreed. Removing obsolete features is advancing. There was a time to remove floppy drives and such. And it would be time to remove the headphone jack if there were a replacement that was at least as good.

Wireless headphones suck. They're expensive, inconvenient, and don't work with most of the things I want to use headphones with.

This is kind of the right answer, even though it's obviously not popular.

The real problem is, right now wireless headphones aren't nearly as convenient along a number of axes as wired headphones.

The real solution is, get them to be absolutely as convenient. After all, solving engineering problems is what we're all about here, right?

When someone figures out how to make wireless earbuds that cost $20 or less, never need charging, and won't fall out of my ears and down a sewer grate, I'll think about buying them.

It would be nice if they were engineering problems created by actual user demand, though, not a combination of slick marketing and fear of media piracy.

I'll look forward to the $5 wireless headphones that don't need charged, and the matching transmitters to stick into all my current devices.

Right now, I'm dealing with it by preferentially buying phones that come with a headphone jack. And internally stowed stylus. And a slot for a memory card. Fortunately, the Note 8 has all three.

Sure all of those may be on the way out in long term trend—the others for longer than the headphone jack.

But as long as I have a choice, I'll vote with my wallet for the things I prefer.

Mine will.

My own opinion has shifted along with the availability of my Bluetooth headphones. Before I owned Bluetooth headphones I thought getting rid of the headphone jack was a bad idea. After I bought a nice pair that does noise canceling as well, I became a Bluetooth headphone evangelist. After my girlfriend discovered how nice my (or as she calls them "the") Bluetooth headphones are, I find I'm dreading having to pay another 300-400 dollars for another pair of headphones now that my pixel is arriving in a few days.

No what?

>> Deal with it.

> No.

The question was asked: "Deal with what?" All I did was try to clarify.

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