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And you long for the day when it's your particular brand of racism and sexism that wins?

Seriously, can you stop with the "white men are all racist and sexist and are priveleged so my racism and sexism towards them doesn't count", please.

Do you not think your sort of attitude contributes heavily; that is, some people shouldn't be allowed to comment because of their race/sex.

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>And you long for the day when it's your particular brand of racism and sexism that wins?

Beautifully put, the solution to sexism isn't more sexism.

We've banned this account for violating the HN guidelines.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Also, trollish usernames are trolling:

https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&prefix&page=0&dateRange=...

Sorry, I don't see how this acocunt violated the guidelines, or how the username is trollish. Can you clarify?

I think that dang was simply reacting to "Any user name with the word Kek in it is a troll." Kek is a word used almost solely by extreme right, sexist, racist trolls (in that order, more likely to be extremely sexist than racist).

http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/cult-of-kek

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15467478

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15044224

We eventually ban accounts that ignore our requests to follow the site guidelines. Inflammatory usernames catalyze that.

Gotcha. For the record, "kek" is a term that has been appropriated by trolls, but is not in and of itself a troll term. In the future, you should think twice about banning someone on that merit. The links you gave are better evidence, though, thanks!

The links are a little snarky, not terribly helpful, but not especially out there. If you're banning that then banning those making racist remarks like up-thread seems right.

Personally I wouldn't ban either.

dang, there is no way to tell who the mods are. So those "requests" to change behavior aren't exactly clear that they are from the mods. And non-mods have certainly asked me to change my behavior in the past, and sometimes I have taken their advice and sometimes I have decided not to.

It's true, yet I don't feel we should change that, e.g. by putting "mod" beside our names. There's a downside to that sort of thing too, and for HN, I think it's the greater downside.

I'd rather trust the community to figure things out, which it does extraordinarily well.

> white men are all racist and sexist and are priveleged

We are; living in a racist and sexist society leaves its imprint and even the best-intentioned of us have racist and sexist baggage that we need to consciously and continually fight against. I'm sorry that that upsets you so. It exists, and it is real, and it is true, and that it upsets you does not change that it exists, and that it is real, and that it is true.

But for real: it's not that white men "can't comment." It's that white men have a listening problem in aggregate and that perhaps people who are not white men have perspectives that are deserving of being heard. Even if it means that you--and I--should give up our precious, precious megaphones for a sec.

Accepting and working on being mindful and decent does require effort. And it does mean that the "Kek de MAGA"s (how very subtle) of the world won't cheer you on. Somehow, though, those of us who give it an honest try seem to do alright without them.

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