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If you're doing more than one interaction, you can just hold the home button to activate Siri for followups. And you don't need to prefix 'hey siri' if you're activating Siri via home button or screen button.

I've seen so many people prefix 'Hey siri' when they don't really need to:

Holds home, Siri activates "Hey Siri, how's the weather?"

If could just be "How's the weather?" In that instance.

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I shouldn’t need to click a button to effectively interact with my -voice- assistant :)

But it seems a reasonable interface concession given the relative infrequency of multi-query conversations, plus the huge undesirability of having Siri AI figure out (I.e. continue listening and sending data to Apple's servers) for itself whether the conversation has actually ended. Also, for many conversations, you'll be needing to look at the phone anyway (i.e. have it in your hand) to see Siri's answers.

When one person makes a concession it's good business. When millions of users make a concession it's bad design.

I wonder how that works on the iPhone X

The sleep/wake button on the right hand side of the device now triggers Siri when you hold it down for long enough.

Then how do your turn the thing off?

Depends on what you need.

You can now reboot from Settings in iOS11 if the device is responsive and unlocked.

If it's locked or you just want to properly shutdown quickly, press and hold a volume button and the lock button to bring up the SOS mode, which includes the shut down slider.

If the device is unresponsive, it's much less obvious now: https://ios.gadgethacks.com/how-to/force-restart-iphone-x-wh... Volume up, then down, then press and hold the lock button.

They added shut down and reboot to the settings app in iOS 11.

Probably hold it down even longer.

> you can just hold the home button to activate Siri for followups

Unhelpful while I am driving...

A voice assistant that requires physical controls massively reduces its utility and core purpose.

“Requires”?

If this is the only designed in way to make multiple queries without saying "Hey Siri" repeatedly, then it is required for that operation. You literally have people above calling this the "solution" to the issue raised.

It is like Schrödinger's UI design. It is both being claimed as the solution to the problem being raised while at the same time being called entirely optional. Sounds to me like there is no actual solution, and this is a bandaid.

It'll do multi-part queries without pressing the button (or saying "Hey Siri") between each part. On the other hand, if you want to check the weather AND set an alarm, you need to activate Siri twice.

It'll do multi-part queries without pressing the button (or saying "Hey Siri") between each part

On the other hand, if you want to check the weather AND set an alarm, you need to activate Siri twice.

“If this is the only way to do except for that other way of doing it, then there’s only one way to do it”!

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