Coincidentally, we're in the market for a 2018 Odyssey as our family car too.
When I took the Tesla test drive in a Model X with my parents, the rep took pains to educate us about the limitations of Autopilot. Lane following in the highway, below 50 mph around curves, and doesn't recognize traffic lights in the highway. Can't avoid collisions below 7 mph. Can't lane follow in city streets. Can't self-drive on main city thoroughfares. I'm probably missing the message, but I don't see how this is that much more revolutionary than a Honda Sensing suite that I could purchase in a 2018 Odyssey [1]. For all the Reality Distortion Field is putting out from Tesla, I was expecting more.
As it was, I can see value if I sit in rush hour traffic on the highway for an hour or more each day, each way. But unfortunately, that is not my use case. And I can get the same tech on other more mature platforms to address the bulk of the value for that use case.
A lot is riding on Tesla's promise to bring full autonomy In The Future. I fail to see how they are besting Waymo at productizing full autonomy or even taking the next incremental steps towards that goal. If I wasn't in software and following what Waymo et al were doing to move towards full autonomy, then I would probably be dazzled, but I'm struggling to figure out how Tesla's driver assistive tech is getting us to full autonomy faster than Waymo.
I'm on the Model 3 waiting list, but that test drive has me seriously re-considering a 2018 Honda Odyssey instead. I'd welcome feedback on what I missed.
My Odyssey can't do that.
Now I'm confused why Tesla would sound so limited, unless they are trying to cover their ass legally on how you SHOULD use autopilot versus how you CAN use it?
[1] https://www.quora.com/Does-Tesla-Autopilot-work-on-city-subu...
Our 2012 Sienna is doing well and doesn't do too many miles, or I'd have considered upgrading.
Personally, we don't share much - she drives hers, I drive mine and only share duties in the weekend.
With our separate commutes, and a PHEV and and EV we could literally not visit gas stations except on road trips.
I also like the 2018 Odyssey's visual refresh. Sienna hasn't changed in eons it feels like. Inside, I wasn't a fan of the second row seat tracks on the Sienna.