All that's missing is hiding the information in a basement, without stairs and a sign saying "beware of the tiger".
All that's missing is hiding the information in a basement, without stairs and a sign saying "beware of the tiger".
Otherwise it's the software that's using the user and not the other way around.
This is a piece of third party software. "Should be" doesn't override reading the manual and knowing what you're installing.
Can you point out where in the installation instructions I'd find out about this telemetry or do you seriously expect me to read every single piece of documentation this might be hidden in? Considering this was added after the initial release, do you expect me to re-read the documentation on every single update?
Sorry, but even if your argument was correct, this just (deservedly) burns any good will I had with MS, which wasn't much but at least I used to have some for the .net team.
I expect someone who cares about telemetry to search for it. It is well publicised, discussed, and available [1]. There is a telemetry warning when first using the tool.
> Considering this was added after the initial release, do you expect me to re-read the documentation on every single update?
No, but I would expect you to read the release announcements. [2]
> Sorry, but even if your argument was correct, this just (deservedly) burns any good will I had with MS, which wasn't much but at least I used to have some for the .net team.
So, regardless of correctness you would have been burned anyway. Microsoft even releases the telemetry gathered under a creative commons license [3]. You can opt out of this completely transparent and well documented option.
[1] https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/core/tools/telemetry
[2] https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/dotnet/2016/05/16/announcin...
[3] https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/dotnet/2017/07/21/what-weve...
Yeah, well...where is it?
https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/dotnet/2017/08/14/announcin...
https://github.com/dotnet/core/blob/master/release-notes/2.0...
Or do you seriously expect me to read every beta/RC release note of versions I won't ever use for elementary issues like this?
I missed it, maybe I was on holidays at the time or just missed the headline, unfortunately I'm quite fallible.
> There is a telemetry warning when first using the tool.
This is assuming it was run manually, by a user at the command prompt and that it wasn't buried in thousands of lines of output. Those are all false assumptions. If I set makeprg to "dotnet build" in vim for instance, I'm only going to see filtered output (compile errors). Visual studio and other tools will also hide a lot of the raw output.
> No, but I would expect you to read the release announcements
Silly me trusted them, lesson learned.