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I think Gruber's pieces about Apple are mostly useless, because he always seems heavily biased. Compare that to e.g. the ATP podcast, which is hosted by Apple fans but seems to contain more criticism and less apologism.

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Yup I relate a lot more to ATP than The Talk Show because of the amazing mental gymnastics Gruber goes through to justify all kinds of things that are objectively issues I have with my Apple gear.

It's no surprise that Apple executives give him all kinds of exclusives.

John Siracusa and Marco Arment are great at getting to the parts where Apple can improve. My only fault with them is their idea of Windows seems stuck in the days of XP.

Casey Liss, however, is just a cheerleader who would rather self-flagellate about his unworthiness to see Apple's blinding genius.

Since you brought him up, Liss gets on my nerves because not only does he insist that something works fine for him, but he goes on extended rants about how everything is fine and he can't see what Arment/Siracusa are talking about. Like, he spends a lot of time claiming everything is fine but in an argumentative way. It's boring and frustrating.

Marco's problematic/annoying in his own way, but Casey is aggressively... status quo???

But the fact that they have 3 distinct personalities also makes the show interesting, rather than many other podcasts where people just agree with each other (like the aforementioned Talk Show)

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