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>NMS gets a lot of hate and I don't think it's deserved

Should we just ignore all of the hype and promises made by the developer/publisher which were never delivered on? That's where the hate comes from. They promised something much more than what they delivered.

Yes, they've made improvements, and that's great, but it still doesn't contain some of the biggest features promised while the game was still in dev. The marketing of this game was very deceptive, and they deserve what they got for that.

Besides... most find the game pretty boring.

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>Should we just ignore all of the hype and promises made by the developer/publisher which were never delivered on? That's where the hate comes from. They promised something much more than what they delivered.

The people who pre-ordered should've waited till the reviews came out and then bought?

I have rarely seen a level of delusion from a fan base than the one around NMS, they collectively hyped themselves to a level of frenzy before the game came out that could only lead to disappointment.

> The people who pre-ordered should’ve waited till the reviews came out and then bought?

This is obviously true—no one should ever preorder digital games.

But that does not absolve the developer from flat out lying in interviews and promises, sorry.

>I have rarely seen a level of delusion from a fan base than the one around NMS

Just wait until star citizen crashes down hard

You assume it will ever be released. :-)

Wait... it's the customer's fault for believing what they were being told by the developer? I don't pre-order anything for this very reason, but c'mon; th fault still lies with the liar.

Please see: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJ-tgaE37UE

Even if you ignore the blatant lies, the game just turned out to be boring. An empty universe which lacked the awe inspiring sense of adventure that was promised.

Yes... that is the point of reviews, that's why they exist, to establish what a game is not what it was meant to be. If marketing materials were accurate there wouldn't need to be any reviews in the first place, if you pre-order you are pre-ordering aspirations not guarantee's, all anyone had to do to avoid disappointment was not buy the game until it was released.

As I said, that fanbase hyped themselves up to a degree which is ridiculous, they took every word out of the devs mouth from years of interviews as gospel, it really was an unholy shitstorm where everyone from the developer, the publisher and the customers made things worse than it needed to be.

Regarding preordering - If you're talking monetary value it's of course accurate but I'm sure tons of people were insanely excited for the game. When it turns out to be different, it doesn't matter as much that they lost money but that they had their hopes up for nothing.

They did what most "lean startups" did. They made an MVP, and iterated from there. The only difference is that their target audience were gamers who hivemind way more than most other markets.

A lean startup, done right, plans the MVP and promises only that, as a first iteration. Then, if necessary, they can pivot in a new direction with another MVP v2, or use the credibility from the execution of their first, viable, release, to raise support for a major expansion or three.

Clearly they did not create a “minimum viable” product if their customers were so unhappy with the end result. As a startup, they failed completely at determining what that “minimum viable” was.

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