The scenarios I've seen people called Nazis, it was a matter of calling a spade a spade. What would you call a "conservative" who has swastika tattoos, a propensity to shout "hail victory" and re-enacting Nazi torch ceremonies? If you consider these folk the standard-bearers for conservatives, I think this says more of you than the people calling Nazis by their name.
You are being disingenuous if you are suggesting that the Nazi label is being applied to anything more than the (seeming ascendant) far right fringe.
It's unfortunate because people in the middle, who will now get skewered for being fence sitters will be more likely to vote against the antifa types who are trying really hard to antagonize.
Show your sources.
> Black people ho support Trump or Latinos supporting trump's immigration policies are getting lumped into the same group.
Show your sources.
> it's as if anyone who doesn't agree with their world view is a nazi.
Show your sources.
Gonna need some more before GP's comment is even vaguely accurate.
it's always a problem no matter who does it; I abhor it from the left too. But consider that it's unlikely to be 'equal' at any point in time between different groups in a fast-changing political landscape.
My main point is that the difference between the groups is not ordinary people on Twitter, but high-profile leaders, even national leaders, are doing it on the right; Obama did not act like Trump in that regard; the UK foreign minister and the leader of Hungary, among others, openly advocate white supremacy. Also in the media: Read Wall St Journal editorials, which go out of their way to demonize (and dehumanize) those on the left; it's in almost every one, it seems.
But I agree; let's oppose it everywhere.
See the difference?
Win power? I hope not. Who would want any of those two choices. As for implied hate, well... I think Antifa is proving Jung's enantiodromia true:
http://i.imgur.com/h1gpoI1.jpg
>even China's Communists are authoritarian capitalists who have retained the old brand name.
That one is a little more nuanced than you present. They are communists except for some big areas of the economic system. However, there are many areas where they have not departed. How the party is run, how the country is organized and governed, how the people are controlled, 5-year plans, etc.
I agree. I'm against both. My point is that there is no threat of that from the left right now, but perhaps the largest threat from the right since WWII. Antifa has no chance of gaining political power anywhere much less having advocates in the White House and other national capitals.
> >even China's Communists are authoritarian capitalists who have retained the old brand name.
> That one is a little more nuanced than you present. They are communists except for some big areas of the economic system. However, there are many areas where they have not departed. How the party is run, how the country is organized and governed, how the people are controlled, 5-year plans, etc.
I don't know if I agree. They remain authoritarians (maybe becoming totalitarians) in those regards; they use the same structures that were used by Communists when they were ascendant in China and worldwide; but I'm not sure what is particularly Communist about all of that in the political ideological sense. I do know that Xi was reviving some of the ideological language, but that seemed more like a tool of obedience than something anyone took seriously. Capitalist authoritarians took over the Communist machine and decided it was easier to use the legacy tech. But maybe you know something I don't ...
Do you have any evidence linking those accounts to Antifa? Or any indication that they're Antifa? I might be missing it but I can't see anything in that image which justifies you linking it to Antifa...
This is the best example of Psychological Projection that I have seen all week.
Perhaps I should have written: There's a serious problem that large numbers of conservative leaders and elite engage in demonization and dehumanization of others, to the point where it has become normalized, acceptable political discourse for them.