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Look mate, I am sorry to break the news for you but the woman in front of you was totally within her rights to push her seat down. This is not something that is granted from the back passenger in a plane. BTW, there are seats with more space near the emergency exits that can be bought for a small fee. If you are big you may want to consider that.

Actually reminds me of a crazy bitch that insisted that I don't push my seat down, while at he same time had her seat pushed down (guess it is called "maximizing space"). But this was nothing that could not get fixed with a short yelling at her.

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Maybe it shouldn't be within her rights, is all I'm saying. The airlines could fix this easily. If the seats didn't decline, then there wouldn't be an issue. This is only an issue because they were designed in a way that allowed for such reclining.

It's a bad design choice with such limited space to add functionality that complicates an already tenuous situation.

This forum is one that frequently discusses issues of inefficiency and good design. How is it that these seats, specifically their unnecessary ability to decline, aren't seen as an example of bad design? Very few seating options need reclining capabilities, especially on short flights.

ANA have a new fixed-back seat that "reclines" by sliding forward, so that it doesn't intrude on the person behind you. All airlines should adopt that seat.

If reclining the seat will crush the knees of the person behind you, the seat shall remain in its upright position. The mechanical ability to do a thing is not a justification.

If you don't fit in the seat with the next seat reclined, you should pay for economy plus.

What if you get on the plane and realise that the seats are so close to each other that you no longer fit in the seat with the next seat reclined? Are you expected to research the pitch values for each aircraft used by each airliner before purchasing a ticket, lest your kneecaps get crushed?

Yea, you know when I buy something, I learn about it. If I don't want to spend time learning about it, I find a brand/model that always has what I want. I don't buy the version that consistently doesn't have the feature I want and then complain about how it should be better.

Where do you go to look up the pitch values for the aircraft used by a given airliner?

https://www.seatguru.com/charts/generalcharts.php

I find it hilarious that you're downvoted for "tall people should pay for economy plus" while "fat people should pay for two seats" is near the top of this very discussion. As a tall and thin person, shame!

Well being tall isn't a choice unlike being fat

That's not always possible on every flight. Every airline has a different system and set of rules. Some airlines don't offer a system for paying for emergency exit seats. Other times the seats might already be booked. Sometimes the cost is prohibitively expensive.

When that happens you're stuck with the situation of having your knees caps smashed, just so someone can tilt their seat back a few degrees.

It's a very strange situation to agree that someone should have a small privilege to the discomfort or even pain of someone else.

That makes 0 sense, why should the longer person pay tax for their genetics? Also don't recline if it causes physical pain to someone else. Wtf is wrong with you

well you have also right to fart, burp and do other things but we have something called manners, you know, for situations where your can legally annoy other people, usually normal people try to be nice to each other and not be dicks like reclining seat if there is behind me 2m tall person

if you think just because you have right to do something it's ok to do it i feel sorry for people around you

This is why I'm always happy to pay extra for United seat 21D.

You can also pay another extra fee if you want a free beating. That one is not listed on the menu though.

Sounds interesting. On which model aircraft is this a prime seat?

I forget the exact models (I always check seatguru), but some if not most of the 737s.

It's the rear most exit row aisle seat (I've developed some kind of flight anxiety/claustrophobia and medically need the sightline space of the aisle) which can recline, but the ones in front cannot.

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