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Sorry, but antifa is more than Anti-Trump Activists, they are dangerous. They attack people for political reasons and are largely unpunished because they wear all black and wear masks. They are the clowns that started fires in berkeley and hit the Trump support in the head with a bike lock, causing a fractured skull. That's no good imo.

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The article does not mention "antifa" even once. Can you not throw unrelated bombs into this thread?

so antifa = anti-fascists, right?

By fascists we are talking about the white supremacists fascists with Nazi flags and salutes that staged violence in Charlottesville last weekend?

If you openly glorify Nazi-ism then I'm going to assume that you would kill a few million people you don't like, given any political power. Incidentally a person was killed by fascists.

Given that background, whats wrong with being against fascists?

Now that you mention it, I am an anti-fascist and still firmly committed to non-violence.

Eric Clanton.

Correct.

Pardon the source but I just searched for "antifa knife" and copied the first link: http://bigleaguepolitics.com/man-stabbed-antifa-mob-outside-...

The alt-left is getting bolder and more dangerous.

And the alt-right is getting dumber. Seriously, "bigleaguepolitics.com"? Are you going to peddle Seth Rich conspiracy theories now too? Because that's also on their front page.

Like I said, I just searched on twitter for the knife attack and clicked the first link. Disregard the source. Was this man not knifed?

Quite possibly "not"?

https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1GCEA_enUS753US753&q=sam...

I find it ... odd that not one mainstream media source is in the results there.

For a stabbing...

Not even a local paper.

Not even Fox News.

Just Infowars, Breitbart, AboveTopSecret, all right wing and/or conspiracy sites.

We don't know. Just because some guy posts a picture of a knife wound and claims to have been jumped, that doesn't mean anything. You may recall: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashley_Todd_mugging_hoax

Be careful what you read on the internet. A lot of what I have seen is made to intentionally deceive. For example: http://www.snopes.com/antifa-member-photographed-beating-pol...

There are enough nutjobs on both sides without making them up.

Not defending violence in any form.

So anyone who visits a far-left or far-right political website should have their identities unmasked to the federal government?

Don't refer to these morons committing violent acts in the name of protest as "alt-left." It does nothing but legitimize them, much as the moniker "alt-right" legitimizes white supremacists.

There is a time and a place for violent protest/revolution, but we're nowhere near there yet.

   > much as the moniker "alt-right" legitimizes white 
   > supremacists.

Actually, alt-right was coined as a term to differentiate people who adhere to the traditional republican/libertarian views about personal liberty and small government from the neo-conservatives such as Romney, McCain, Graham, and others who push so strongly for nation-building and big government.

The collection of people that are drawn to the ideal of small-government and liberty is larger than the subset you describe.

Source? The Southern Poverty Law Center says it was coined by Richard Spencer to describe a white nationalist political ideology: https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/ideo...

The Southern Poverty Law Center is notoriously biased [1] against any non-progressive ideology, which includes alt-right and libertarian ideals. If this is indeed their actual opinion, it is wrong. I suspect even they know it is not true. Alt-right traces is lineage back to Ron Paul and the tea-party.

[1] http://www.dailywire.com/news/8967/7-things-you-need-know-ab...

Do you have any sources to back up your claim the the term "Alt-right" can be traced back to Ron Paul and the tea party?

Wikipedia says the first usage of the term "alternative right" was by Paul Gottfried in 2008 (http://forward.com/news/national/348372/meet-the-jewish-pale...)

It also says that the first usage of the contracted form "alt-right" was by Richard Spencer. https://www.adl.org/education/resources/backgrounders/alt-ri... http://www.newyorker.com/news/benjamin-wallace-wells/is-the-... and https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/21/us/alt-right-salutes-dona... quote Spencer as claiming to be the person who coined the term. And there's like a dozen other citations on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alt-right

Where are your sources?

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