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supremesaboteur

From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthcare_in_Sweden

> Costs for health and medical care amounted to approximately 9 percent of Sweden’s gross domestic product in 2005, a figure that remained fairly stable since the early 1980s. By 2015 the cost had risen to 11.9% of GDP -the highest in Europe

> According to the Euro health consumer index the Swedish score for technically excellent healthcare services, which they rated 10th in Europe in 2015, is dragged down by access and waiting time problems, in spite of national efforts such as Vårdgaranti

Seems like the effects of socialism is starting to take effect

I could not find much details on public transport in Sweden

Ironically Sweden has moved in the past 20 years from a fully public healthcare system to a mixed public/private model (similar in many ways to a voucher approach where the customer picks a provider).

So what you're seeing in those numbers is not really "effects of socialism".

Your profile says that you use this account specifically to support conservative viewpoints. You need to try harder than just pick random statistics and proclaim socialism.

> Ironically Sweden has moved in the past 20 years from a fully public healthcare system to a mixed public/private model (similar in many ways to a voucher approach where the customer picks a provider).

So the healthcare quality could be because of privatized healthcare ?

Yes, possibly! And on the flip side, Sweden's recent drops in European healthcare quality rankings could be due to advanced privatization too. 1980-2015 is too long a period to easily draw any single conclusion.

The larger point I'm trying to make is that Sweden is nothing like its Breitbart caricature. It's a very competitive free market economy with a hybrid approach to most social services. Socialism in the early 20th century sense doesn't describe 21st century Sweden.

Sweden's population is also a lot older than it was in the 1980's. Drives up costs substantially.

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