Windows 10 is usable in every aspect.
Boot speed is pretty good and doesnt freeze like that.
Check your hardware if that is a fresh factory install. You are doing something wrong.
They are not common problems. They are yours.
Boot speed is pretty good and doesnt freeze like that.
Check your hardware if that is a fresh factory install. You are doing something wrong.
They are not common problems. They are yours.
Maybe they're not common problems, but it's certainly not just him that find it gives a poor experience.
Why then do Windows 10 laptops get sold with HDDs? You come to store and that's what you get out of it.
Also, Linux doesn't mind running from HDD. Not ten years ago, not now.
Lesson to MS: Get your act together or get out of this business. Come back from make-believe world. MS is running on make-believe for the last 10 years. Windows 8, the whole Avalon story, Windows Phone and now this Windows 10 "which only works well on SSD but never discourages anybody from getting an HDD laptop". Supposedly we should learn about this by telepathy or something.
That's factually incorrect. OSX, Windows, Linux, it makes no difference. You cannot hide the 8ms of response time that comes with a crappy laptop spinning drive. If you spend all your time in a web browser with ample amounts of memory... sure. If you're doing ANYTHING that requires disk I/O - whether it be launching a game, or opening a large directory, you will experience significant lag time with a spinning drive.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bgmph_bL8V4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-Rsr4E6b68
But I would once again question why you care how long it takes to cold boot a laptop. I think my laptop gets cold booted MAYBE once a month.
On my SSD, my Win10 cold boots faster than my Dell U2410 screen displays anything if powered at the same time (couple of secs)
Sure you can, you can load stuff in memory so you don't have to hit the hard drive every time you do something like open the start menu. Once in a while the taskbar likes to "refresh" itself and the icons disappear while the drive spins up. It's not a problem I ever had on windows 7 or any linux machine.
Excellent question. These machines should do better with Win7 but Microsoft doesn't want to sell it.
Microsoft sells windows 10 and Microsoft sells laptops with Windows 10 on an SSD. I doubt (but do correct me if I'm wrong) Microsoft sells any computers with Windows 10 on a mechanical drive.
Various manufacturers sell underpowered computers with Win10 on it, but thats hardly microsofts fault. They do that because otherwise they can't hit the lowest price segments.
What IS Microsoft's fault:
1)Microsofts "hardware requirements" only say what's necessary to use it, not what's needed for a decent experience.
2) not selling Win7 or making newer versions of windows work with older hardware.
That's a lie right here because the laptop in question not low end, definitely middle one.
> Various manufacturers sell underpowered computers with Win10
That was always part of Microsoft deal. You get your computer from a manufacturer other than MS and they still have to deliver experience, and they've failed that one.
You'll note that with respect to my sons laptop, Linux ran just fine on his much older, slower laptop.
Says it all, really.
Well, "Linux" is much broader than a specific version of windows (Windows 10). But yes, for most kinds of linux setup (distro, window managers etc) I'd say the bare OS definitely needs less resources on Linux than on Windows.
I do find that apart from the storage issues, Win10 actually runs about as lean (on cpu and mem) as Win7. The problem with consumer hardware such as cheap or midrange laptops is usually that it's infested with crapware from the start, something I also blame microsoft for, not manufacturers.
The OEM agreeements microsoft do with laptop manufacturers should explicitly ban them from installing any crapware such as antivirus trial versions, poorly written hardware apps and similar. I realize the $400 price of a cheap laptop sometimes includes a big rebate due to the software bundles - but ms ought to put a stop to it. Has to be damaging to their brand.
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If it doesn't work on a mechanical drive, it's fucking broken.
Additionally, you don't get to compare two products if one of them has massively higher hardware requirements.
Completely agree that having a major version bump as an automatic is insane.
That's why they should just skip the version numbering and just make it a subscription. Then they can sunset hardware 5-6 years old continuously like iOS, but let people choose to stay on the of version indefinitely.
Also: your recommendation for resolving reliability issues is to reinstall the OS? Yes I know the historical reasons for saying this, but in 2017 if the user has to re-install the OS to get it to work I suggest the problem lies somewhere other than in the user.
I am also a technician and installed win10 more than i can count. Yes Old & Slow and New Budget-friendly machines are problematic with windows 10. Thats mainly because hardware. Because its new OS and getting better hardware is a must. You cant complain about a calculator can not run win10 properly. OF course 5200 rpm hdd and celeron cpu fails.
win10 is confusing? Yes. Sometimes goes hard on user? Yes. Annoying with their "windows store"? Oh very yes.
Slow and Freezing constantly? No. Proper UEFI setups works like a charm with proper machines.
Usable? yes it is.
And here I thought it was Linux users that were supposed to say "you're holding it wrong" and "just make sure you get supported hardware"