On a trip to Montreal this weekend I seriously considered just staying...
If you subscribe to the view that the war on drugs is/was chiefly motivated by white supremacy and the preservation of a minority right-wing establishment (as Ehrlichman apparently did [1]), it's arguably been a success.
The administration is supported by a minority of the electorate, the administration is a right-wing regime filled with unrepentant bigots, the administration wants the war on drugs to be maintained and intensified. These things fit together in a very unsurprising way, once one can get over the shock of just how petty and vile the fabulously wealthy elites running the government turn out to be.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Ehrlichman#War_on_drugs
Is it? Why don't we try and see?
You’re not doing any better going up and down this thread punching straw men and condescendingly misinterpreting comments.
They didn’t even characterize a group of people as evil!
Jeff Sessions is just a guy. An old guy, from a different time with who's opinions you don't agree. He won't be here long so don't get all worked up.
There are plenty of decent men from that time. Jeff Sessions isn't one of them
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/12/...
See also "racist"
"Hissy fit" is a gendered insult. You're suggesting that anyone who admits that Sessions has bad intentions is acting like a menstruating woman. It's really offensive. Maybe English isn't your first language, maybe you didn't understand this. You aren't elevating the level of discourse here.
...the idea that some group of people are inherently evil cannot be logically argued...
We're talking about one person in this case, and he's had a long career which makes the argument (that he acts with malice aforethought, that he's chosen to do the more-evil option over and over again) more strongly than any "logic" anyone's likely to construct for a message board post.
I really would like to see some stats before forming an opinion on emotions alone. After all, it was emotions that landed us here.
Some people just don't want to rejoin society. Why choose life when you've got heroin? Pretty sure that rehab doesn't have a good success rate in those situations.
http://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2017/04/18/524380027/i...
Especially when coupled with "cheaper".
The 95% drop in HIV is a great side stat, but really looking more on stats for rehab programs.
I suppose what I am suggesting is that this is sufficient evidence for you to stop casting doubt and go find evidence for it if you want to continue questioning treatment.
Otherwise you get to argue by shouting at the monkeys to dance as you demand ever higher quality proof that you are wrong.
I'll stop shouting at the monkeys now.
I dont have the stats you are looking for, but even if it is ineffective and some people do not want to rejoin society, how is locking in them in a cage an ethical response to that?
It's a lot more effective (and just) than locking people up.
I will say that I can see the damage here in the Detroit region from another untreated addiction epidemic, the crack crisis from the 80s. So much of the regions ills come from treating it as a criminal justice problem instead of a health crisis. A generation was lost to either the drugs themselves or the war on drugs.
I'm not saying incarceration is the answer. I'm trying to do research to see what might be better.
Everyone downvoting, thanks for the negative feedback on someone trying to form a fact based stance on a touchy subject and asking questions.
If there's someone on drugs that wants to be on drugs, I think a real possibility is that we keep giving them drugs until they want to change. Remove the criminal element and possibility of disease and adultered drugs be having the government provide the drugs. Then give them help once someone is ready for help.
Just spit balling here. Maybe I'm wrong and forced rehab has better efficacy rates.
Heroin abuse is in the extreme minority when it comes to opioid abuse. You need to get rid of the image in your head of the strung-out heroin addict lazing about in a grubby drug den. A majority of the opioid epidemic these days is actually from prescription opioids like Oxycontin , Vicodin, and similar drugs. So there's plenty of high functioning blue and white collar opioid addicts out there with plenty to lose.