https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2010/dec/15/nobel-...
Who gets to decide what is or is not allowed to be spoken?
> Liu said China needs to be colonized for 300 years to get better, is it just free of speech? sound quite repressive to me.
Even if it is repressive, preventing him to say it by arresting him and his family is not repressive to you?
Are you sure he was arrest because of saying that? Do you have any facts to support your view?
> Liu said China needs to be colonized for 300 years to get better, is it just free of speech? sound quite repressive to me.
Do you think Liu deserves Nobel Peace Prize after saying that publicly?
Remember that the argument was "There is certain views that should never ever be publicly stated".
I don't care one way or the other, it's the Nobel committee's decision who they award the prize to. It makes no difference to me. It doesn't make what he, or any other Nobel Laureate say any more true or worthy of consideration.
> Remember that the argument was "There is certain views that should never ever be publicly stated".
There was no argument, it was a statement. If you want to argue in favor of why some views should never be publicly stated and who is gonna decide what is/is not allowed, go ahead.
the core issue here is simple: how come such a man who repeatedly made such extremist styles comments in public got awarded the nobel peace prize.
That is your issue, not mine.
> you came to this thread largely because Liu is not a random dude on street, he had the nobel peace prize.
I am here because of the outrageous comment you made about ‘certain views that should never ever be publicly stated’. If you can’t defend your opinions then why are you here? Can you, or can you not explain how do you support your extremist views?
what a joke.
A joke indeed.
If you live in a society that allows you to publicly state anything without consequences, I'd say that is horrible.
If you live in the US, try talk about some racial stuff and bring in the same colonization elements in, see how that is going to end.
Time to grow up talk like an adult.
For his sentence, no one in this thread ever supported that, for me, it is as bad as giving this man the nobel peace prize.
Yes. You must defend every word you say.
> Time to grow up talk like an adult.
You mean like an adult who can't defend his/her positions and is willing to send to jail everyone who disagrees with him/her? What a wonderful "adult" you must be.
But that doesn't exist anywhere in the world. The closest is the US, but even their extremist version of freedom of speech has government imposed limits.
Yea. That is what I want to learn. You do not care about the Prize.
> If you want to argue in favor of why some views should never be publicly stated and who is gonna decide what is/is not allowed, go ahead.
It seems that is you want to know about it. Probably I misunderstood you. I have no interest :P. So we can stop here.
You can spend your entire life arguing whether it is good or bad for China to be colonized by the west for 300 years, I am not going to waste my time on that.
Oh, you just don't like it.
In America we have helpful groups like Southern Poverty Law Center which direct us to which ideas are bad speech that shouldn't be allowed. Maybe China should follow our example and privatize their speech curatorship police, then they would be more free.