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Also: Scala, TypeScript, F#

I've only used Scala and TypeScript. TypeScript is crap compared to Go. It's yet another abstraction layer on top of javascript and it's much slower and even more difficult to program with than Go. There's no point in using TS when Go is there.

Scala is yet another language running on a JVM and its syntax is almost as bad and clumsy as Java. Most benchmarks put it on par with Go in terms of performance.

I just don't see a point in using these languages when Go is just as capable, more simple, compiled to binaries (and can even run on bare metal in some cases), runs on more platforms, has much better editor support, and is just more fun to use in general.

Scala has its problems, but it is not anywhere near as clumsy as Java. Where Scala falls flat is implicitness, an overabundance of features, and extreamly dense syntax for very high levels of abstraction. Its syntax is actually quite nice, with relatively few warts. I find it a joy to write, and very fluid.

Scala is too complicated. It reminds me of C++. But C++ is fast. People use it probably when performance is their first priority.

For practical reasons I just bear with C++. Use it as necessary.

I would rather not bear with another complicated language, unless there are compelling reasons.

I think it's unlikely that Scala can be useful to me in the near future, because there are so many good alternatives.

>Scala

functional language with hoards of issues

>TypeScript

javascript

>F#

essentially vendor locked to windows

>>F# >essentially vendor locked to windows

If you by "essentially" mean "not at all". You've been able to run F# on Mono for ages, and now you can run it on either Mono or .NET Core.

> You've been able to run F# on Mono for ages

But you wouldn't want to, because for a very long time Mono was horribly buggy, and no library or application cared for supporting it. It may be better now in terms of .Net itself, I am not sure how it looks like in terms of community support for non-windows usage.

i have a running f#/mono environment on this computer. on my other computer i cannot get it to work. things like this

https://stackoverflow.com/a/41578645/6767912

and this

https://github.com/NuGet/Home/issues/2880

tells me it's not production ready (yes i've even tried compiling mono from source).

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