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I visit n-gate.com weekly. I am not very well-aware of stuff outside css/js and lot of people here talk confidently about stuff they have no clue of, unopposed. n-gate reminds me how little people on this site know stuff outside of css/js/business. Rest are clueless wannabes trying to one-up each other.

My favorite comment will always be- somebody mentioned that Microsoft Band needs a realtime OS so someone proposed javascript vm. And there were 10 other people talking about it seriously.

I'm sure I'll be downvoted which will be further proof of what I'm saying. Not that I care really. I make an account a week.

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Is there a secret area on HN where people worship CSS/JS with blind faith? Because whichever post related to it I visit, there's a healthy dose of skepticism, especially in Electron/ReactNative/AnyOtherJSWrapper posts.

Further down you replied to someone else complaining about how other's work is belittled, then you write this

> somebody mentioned that Microsoft Band needs a realtime OS so someone proposed javascript vm. And there were 10 other people talking about it seriously.

I am not sure if this is bait or lack of self awareness, though I'd lean towards bait, considering you are also worried about downvotes.

I'm scared to mention electron on here, always draws out the torch and pitchforks

People on HN will rather gently point out that Electron, being convenient to you, is at the same time a horrible resource hog and exactly the opposite of what an elegantly-written, efficient and optimized application would be. Especially for some of us who actually create native apps using Electron might just be laziness - or inability to really care about the user.

> Electron might just be laziness - or inability to really care about the user.

Or it might be that it is just good enough for the target user. My 2013 Macbook has enough power to run all the Electron apps I need without slowing down...well it did once I removed Atom and learned to love Visual Studio Code.

I think that Atom's performance woes and resource hogging tends to be a stand-in for all atom apps.

Hey look, just what I was talking about. I mentioned electron and now I've been called lazy and uncaring

I was very careful to use the word "might", as there really are cases where Electron is the optimal choice. Usually though, it is not.

This is precisely the attitude that makes mature programmers not taking you seriously.

If you're young and feel the need to express dismissal to the people who take their work more seriously, that's fine -- hormones and stuff, we've all been through that, so meh, nobody is mad about it.

You still shouldn't forget it's a _job_ and not a fashion statement.

The fact that Electron is easy to work with, _for you_, means absolutely nothing about the end result of the work done through it. The topic has been beaten to death here in HN, you can check -- but then again, being that dismissive and arrogant probably means you'll never challenge your opinion. Oh well, still worth the shot in giving you the other perspective.

I never expressed support for electron. I merely mentioned it.

You've inferred that I'm young (nope), implied that I'm not mature, don't take my work seriously, that I have "hormones and stuff", that I consider electron a fashion statement (?), that I'm dismissive and arrogant, and that I'll never challenge my opinion. Phew!

For the record, I have dabbled with electron, and I'm on the fence about it. It's a quick path to MVP, but it has obvious performance issues and I'm not sure I wish to inflict these on my end users. I'm teaching myself react native and python/qt at the moment instead.

Thanks for proving my point so completely. Hey and look, a downvote too.

> always draws out the torch and pitchforks

I still stand behind my statement that this is immature and disrespectful. The rest are "if"-s, you can check my comment. There are no claims, there are "if"-s.

Granted I made a few assumptions. If you don't want that, write more than one sentence. ;)

Unless it is VSCode - because who can hate such a good IDE

It really is fantastic. I'm a long time user of full visual studio and I find it superior in many ways

> I'm sure I'll be downvoted which will be further proof of what I'm saying.

This is an arrogant and confrontational statement to make, especially given your respectable admission of lack of awareness outside of CSS/js.

Seems the site is just as opinionated as the worst of HN...

I think it's just clever satire. I especially like the "about" page.

> Hacker news is an echo chamber focusing on computer posturing and self-aggrandizement.

I'll also add- it serves as a punching bag for people who can't speak up at their work- they vent their frustrations here by belittling everyone's work.

I mean this is the nature of the web. But HN is already as good as we can get. You yourself keep coming back as well, apparently. Otherwise do you have an alternative to propose?

Least bad doesn't mean as good as it can get!

This site is a parody of what 90% of HN is. Cherry picking the worst parts maybe, but not exaggeration.

To be fair, you do also have the people that wrote the OS for the Band commenting.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8531803

one look at n-gate and it looks promising. Thanks.

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