> Django's fat models approach is bad

while django encourages Fat Models and that approach ends up working well sometimes, django itself has no such approach to models. how much logic to put in a model is left to the application developer.

i think what tends to happen, though, is that coming up with a convention different than Fat Models is difficult, especially early on, so most organizations don't bother and end up with models that are badly abstracted AND fat.

this could be seen as a failure of the django community, but it is not a shortcoming of the framework itself.