Comment by ProfessorLayton | Hacker News Reader

Comment by ProfessorLayton | Hacker News Reader

ProfessorLayton

I haven't played with the latest beta, but I'd like to talk about this particular guideline that has been irking me more and more with recent iOS iterations:

https://developer.apple.com/ios/human-interface-guidelines/i...

iOS:

- Randomly asks me to verify my iCloud password without me initiating anything. It is neither subtle or informs me why it is asking.

- 3D Touch is still inconsistently implemented with varying degrees of feedback. A quick example is that you can "peek" into a music album, but not a photo album. 3D Touch in MacOS uses haptic feedback for a hard press irrespective of an underlying action, but not iOS.

Apple Music:

- No feedback whatsoever when music pauses for various reasons like low signal, bluetooth disconnect, or general playback error.

- With a low cell signal, many times it will just outright refuse to play a song already in my library. How do I know this? If I activate airplane mode, it will play music without a problem. No feedback, just a poor experience.

Sometimes I really wish Apple would heed their own advice. I'm hoping this is fixed in iOS 11

I'm constantly being harassed to set my iTunes password and to update my iOS on my iPad. I don't want to. Leave me alone, apple. This is my iPad, not yours.

Same here. I don't use my iPad all the time, more as an ebook and paper reader, and the experience is now getting similar to the experience I have with my Windows pc, which I also only use occasionally (for gaming), and which needs half an hour of updates on every start.

My PS3 is terrible for this.

If you think about it, this

> needs half an hour of updates on every start.

is directly caused by this

> only use occasionally

If you want a secure system but this bothers you, just leave the PC on once in a while.

Assuming the version of iOS you're running has significant security flaws, what should Apple's preferred behaviour be here?

Discourage disabling the harassment/auto updates but ultimately make it possible?

Imagine if windows just kinda foisted it upon you. People would be upset.

Android updates are very un-intrusive. It's just a notification and ends up in the same black hole unread emails and facebook friend requests go [1].

I wish Android updates were more aggressive.

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[1] anecdata: I know 4-5 older people with Samsung phones. 100% of them had received an update notification and had ignored it

> Leave me alone, apple. This is my iPad, not yours.

That's where you're wrong.

All great points. For me, connecting to wifi networks has been a huge pain with iOS 10. In settings, I'll see a checkmark next to the wifi network name, but no wifi signal icon in the status bar or connectivity. Stays like that for 2-3 minutes before actually connecting.

Please file a bug whenever you see this. If you're using betas there's an app called Feedback Assistant to do this, otherwise it can be a lot of work to actually get the sysdiagnose logs.

Tried to file a bug through the online bug reporter for a few things recently only to be unable to submit. The thing just sits there with a loading indicator indefinitely and the bugs just sit in draft mode.

"Randomly asks me to verify my iCloud password without me initiating anything"

I'm not 100% sure, but I think that's been improved in a recent iOS 10 update. It's now a section in the settings app and a badge tells you that you need to enter your password.

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