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Comment by dilap | Hacker News Reader

Oh god, the shit where incredibly overweight pages make you click the slow "load more" buttons just to load a few more kb of text that could've been immediately shown to you for basically no extra cost drives me crazy.

And as much as facebook sucks, most web sites suck. It's amazing to me how many sites I read on my phone are basically unusable until I fall back on Safari's reader mode.

Javascript handlers that fuck up scrolling speed, tons of popups obscuring the content, just all kinds of shit. It's like the last thing the website wants you to do is actually read it. (This is probably true, from some sort of limited penny-wise, pound-foolish ad-driven perspective.)

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Those "show more" buttons aren't about not loading text--they bring the ads below the content into your viewport sooner. The content is there the whole time.

Just tested with facebook comments and this seems to not be true. I cut the internet and tapped the "show more" and it failed to display.

It didn't even make sense from a layout perspective. It was a comment with one reply, and in place of the reply, was text that said, "show one reply".

Maybe they're doing it to drive analytics.

Design for Time Well Spent http://www.timewellspent.io/

Pretty inaccurate copy, claiming Google doesn't make money off your attention when they mainly subsist off ad revenue.

I think this is where Google's AMP succeeds. As much as people don't want to be in Google's walled garden and for them to destroy the open web, they have made visiting websites and reading articles much more pleasant. Their incredible engineering talent has done a great job tackling the problems you mentioned.

I prefer to use Safari's Reader Mode. Why shouldn't we just have native support for that on all other major browsers (looking at Chrome).

AMP does do an excellent job of showing just how slow many normal pages are. But even an old-fashioned web-page will load very quickly if designed to a similar visual style as AMP! I'd imagine that with HTTP/2 this should be even faster.

Other things about AMP are pretty annoying to me -- the URL getting hijacked, the way on mobile safari the URL bar never shrinks when scrolling (how do they even break that?), and the ribbon with the fake URL bar that keeps popping in and out of view as you scroll.

You think Google basically replacing the entire web for news sites because their sites are so shitty might encourage them to focus more on basic usability and speed, but so far, no...

There are sites that have a "Load Comments" button and the comments are already loaded, embedded in the page! All the button does is trigger a bit of javascript to populate a previously-hidden div.

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