Sydney’s solar-powered e-paper traffic signs report zero failures since 2013
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I also really, really want an A4 sized eReader but for reasons completely beyond me the only manufacturer of such a device is Sony and not only are they ridiculously overpriced they've got bizarre anti-consumer constraint to basic functionality as well.
It'll be like sitting on an old school workstation again, more focus, less distraction and still have modern underlying hardware.
people need to see it in action, and boss need to see that they can purchase it for their backend developers (non color requiring devs) and think "wow this will save me $$$ on developer distractions."
I think it's because e-reader screens are made on a glass substrate, and a large, thin glass screen in a large, thin, plastic device frame is going to be difficult to reinforce so that it doesn't break. There have been a couple of attempts to manufacture plastic-backed e-reader screens – I recall Plastic Logic from Cambridge a few years back, who were going to make an A4 e-reader but struggled to scale up the technology, and shifted to licensing.
E-Ink have just recently got their technology into production, called Mobius, but they haven't yet caught on in retail devices yet (given the market is mostly a walled garden quasi-monopoly, in practice I mean Amazon haven't used them in Kindles yet). Hopefully when the technology becomes mainstream it will remove some constraints on e-readers, and they'll become thinner, more robust, and easier to produce in large sizes. And hopefully alongside that we'll also get some competition in the e-reader market, and devices which are more open.
The HN discussion has some good arguments about whether the startup can deliver what they say they can or not. Healthy scepticism combined with some signs they really might be able to. I decided to pre-order after reading this thread, and I hope my money isn't gone ;) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13113819
Point is, if real, it looks fantastic.
Anyone know any cheaper competitors?
http://shopkits.eink.com/product/signage-evaluation-kit-v3-w...
I noticed that the module I purchased last year for development ED060SC4 has become quite a lot more expensive on eBay but is still pretty cheaply available on Alibaba, the issue I forsee having is that the screens have edges which will create gaps in the image, might not be too noticable in a sufficiently large array if the virtual image is larger to account for the gaps in the physical display.
There's also the ED097OC1 which is much larger but I think would still suffer from the edge problem and I'm not sure what the price is at medium scale (10s of units).
Please e-mail me if you have a source on these parts or larger tileable panels!
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These are fun[0] but no sign of additional screens.
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1. a page turn would change both displays like a physical book 2. a page turn would just shift one page over and bring up the next page 3. one page could be 'pinned' and page turning would just occur on the unpinned screen
I would also like to be able to create bookmark 'pairs' that would bring up two (not necessarily adjacent) pages of my choosing. I think this would make eReaders much more useful for technical books.
Can you elaborate on this? I've considered buying one of these things since the price dropped from $1k to $700, but if I can't read and annotate PDFs without pointless barriers it's useless to me.
Anyway, my memory could be faulty, so it's best if you find and read the reviews yourself.
- What is total cost and what maintenance is required (annually) and how does it compare to the traditional road signs?
- What about visibility (I assume, it doesn't have reflective property as traditional road sign paint)? At night? At rain? At other extreme weather conditions?
- What connection is used and how secure is it (I assume, it's controlled remotely)?
- What protections does it have against vandalism and theft?
So far, this seems to only be used for parking signs, where visibility isn't as much of a concern.
The fact that they don't break down is just a further testament to e-paper's versatility - we'll see more and more applications using e-paper in digital signage. There's a lot of examples what our customers are building on our blog, like smart citizen information (https://www.visionect.com/blog/soofa-sign-reinventing-citysc...) or trucks equipped with digital signs (https://www.visionect.com/blog/electronic-paper-truck-displa...).
How many employees could be hired changing the physical road signs given the price difference?
Given the positive feedback from the end customer and Mercury Innovation (http://www.mercuryinnovation.com.au/) that took our platform and built the traffic sign (we're not the ones selling the end product) I'd say that TCO is in favor of e-paper traffic signs.
Disclaimer: I work for Visionect
Judging by their posts on this page, the company that manufactures the signs is clearly hooked up to an IV drip of their own koolaid. Still, for this particular application (temporary parking restrictions) e-paper is much better than the previous solution, which was to print plastic inserts and drive around the city sliding them into tracks on the signs.
Also normal road signs use retro reflective spheres mixed into the paint to increase brightness at night, not sure if those can be carried over to e-ink displays?
In this photo, for example, the "2" and "T" could have been shifted a little so that they didn't cross a boundary.
https://www.visionect.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/sydney_...
You're also the poster of the article which is an ad from your company.
> In many applications, it can also prove to be as much as four times more reliable than LCD.
That's a really vague answer. Are you saying your solar powered road side display panels are 4 times more reliable than the LCD panels used with everything else? Could you share some data with us?
The important thing here is that this first production outdoor deployment of EPD signs in the world works for for years without any serious problems which confirms that e-paper is a viable technology for outdoor deployments. There was a lot of skepticism back in 2013 if this is at all possible.
What? Most of the signboards you see on the road are LED signboards. You know the ones we have in freezing winter or in blazing summer! So not only is it possible, it's what's commonly done.
> The important thing here is that this first production outdoor deployment
There's very little data provided in the article, no real accurate data on what kind of environmental conditions were experienced by the devices. Seems like a puff piece.
So much potential, but seems to be poorly implemented by Tfl.gov.uk