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Angular/Angular4 is a joy to develop with, so that's too bad you're limiting yourselves artificially.

We have groovy in my stack at work and everyone despises it. Fortunately that's a legacy we're moving away from.

But is it joy for customers to use the stuff you wrote in it? So many of these opinions always focus on the developers having fun instead of wondering what experience is for the user and maintainers.

It's a valid question that has nothing to do with a tool/framework and everything to do with product goal and time/resources

95% of the time I can significantly improve the user experience thanks to React.

Out of curiosity, what does everyone despise about Groovy?

It's not the new hotness anymore. Scala came along. The author of Groovey says Scalia is better. It's also semidynamic. So if you don't like that, you won't like that (tautology of the day).

Updated for Scalia to Scala.

> The author of Groovey says Scalia is better.

You mean James Strachan? That was 8 years ago. In November last year he said "I still love groovy (jenkins pipelines are so groovy!), java, go, typescript and kotlin. I don't use Scala anymore." [1]

Sounds like he uses Kotlin instead of Scala, and only uses Apache Groovy in Jenkins pipelines. And given that the Groovy collections methods are disabled so they don't actually work in Jenkins, I imagine he uses Java 8 or Kotlin for that purpose.

[1] https://twitter.com/jstrachan/status/784333918078169088

Do you mean Scala? I got a good a chuckle imagining the late Justice Scalia here. :)

I have never heard anybody say that Angular 2+ is a joy to work with before. What about it do you like?

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