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And as long as you fit the "correct" demographics for living in the south.

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> As of the 2010 census, the ethnic makeup and population of San Francisco included: 390,387 Whites (48.1%), 267,915 Asians (33.3%), 48,870 African Americans (6.1%), 4,024 Native Americans (0.5%), 3,359 Pacific Islanders (0.4%), 53,021 from other races (6.6%), and 37,659 from two or more races (4.7%).

> Atlanta 2010 census: 211,365 Whites (38.4%), 28,071 Asians (5.1%), 286,126 African Americans (54.0%), ...

So you mean.. what exactly?

"Everyone in a red state is racist while I live in a post-racial utopia."

Or something like that, I'd imagine.

In the South, whites don't mind if blacks are around, as long as they're not uppity. In the North, whites don't mind if blacks are uppity, as long as they're not around.

Segregation is worse in the north than in the south.

Lol, I heard it differently, 'In South they are supposed to hate us in theory but not in practice, in north they are suppose to love us in theory but not in practice.'

I'm still waiting for the white people from the north to throw a fit because I said this. It's not always well received...

I'm white and from minneapolis and I think your analysis is spot on.

Yeah, I'm in Minneapolis too. When things blew up with the cops and BLM, the rest of the country was shocked that it could happen in nice, tolerant, liberal Minneapolis. Not me. :(

North Minneapolis is as segregated as anything the South can offer.

... but so true. I grew up in the South and am in an inter-racial marriage. After I moved up to a northern "blue" state, I met more overtly racists people than I thought possible. It was shocking.

I grew up in Seattle and have since lived in a few southern cities; I agree with you completely.

Pretty sure when the OP referenced 1/2 acre backyards and $130k-$200k they were not talking about Atlanta.

True. Mostly anywhere in Louisiana, Arkansas, many parts of Texas, and probably all of Alabama and Mississippi. I also don't see large racial issues in my community with the exception being what happened in Baton Rouge last year. Something the South is historically bad at is education. I think we have the 5 lowest scoring states.

If you're LGBT, or atheist, or a noncitizen, you have to stay really close to the larger cities. And you'd best not let too many people know about your nonconformity.

And the cops are still racist. Not quite so blatantly and obviously racist against blacks any more, but it still comes out in the statistics.

What are those percentages religion-wise, and in relation to the one-party state that the South calls governance?

One party state? Louisiana historically has been fairly left leaning. Democrat governor and Democrat senators/congress. Recently that went conservative with Jindal, but I'd hardly call the region one party. With the exception of South Louisiana, most of it and Arkansas (exception of liberal little rock) are in the bible belt, so things tend to be very old school (votes tend to go red).

Religion wise, the South is mostly protestant with the exception of Catholic south Louisiana.

Right/left Democrat/Republican is also a bit different at the local level around those states. There's the moderate conservatives, AKA Democrats, and the hardline conservatives, Republicans.

You seem to not understand the segregation in the South. If you're black, you're not going to be well-accepted if you move into an upper middle-class all-white neighborhood. Yeah, there's lots of black people in Atlanta, but they live "on the other side of the tracks", in all-black (and poor) neighborhoods. Of course, racism exists everywhere, but it's generally worse in the South. A black guy moving into a nice neighborhood in Silicon Valley isn't going to have that problem; his main problem will be feeling isolated because he's the only black guy, and all his friends, neighbors, and coworkers come from a different (sub)culture than him.

Atlanta, in particular, is one place where it is OK to be successful and black, or gay and black, or nerdy and black, or just whatever.

Not all black people are poor and living amidst crime; you get to learn that when you live somewhere where they make up more than 2% of the population.

Check this out:

https://wallethub.com/edu/most-diverse-cities/12690/

While it is true that some of the most diverse cities fall on the east and west coast, I think you'll find that the south is not unrepresented. As a resident of Houston, Texas (#23 on their list) it always bugs me to see people paint an entire region and people with one uniform brush. Something kind of bigoted about it, actually...

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