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Wow. I can only imagine what the reaction would have been if Google released this with Chrome-only demos. Lots of praise about how Google's leading the way, pushing browsers forward, and you really ought to give Chrome a try.

But when Apple does it? A barrage of complaints about how Apple doesn't support standards. It's laughable how transparently people are looking for something, anything to bitch about when it comes to Apple, no matter what they do.

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You're throwing a hypothetical out there while ignoring reality.

Google has Chrome Experiments, open to everyone. Google gets kudos for letting everyone play with different browsers.

Apple has this demo, open to only Safari users. Apple gets the tut-tut'ing because it's not letting people decide for themselves.

Do you see the difference?

Apple may not allow Java, Flash, Qt and all that on their platform unlike Google's Android(which is open to everything from anyone!). Apple might want to make sure that webkit replaces these unnecessary platforms by implementing exclusive and innovative features. And everyone is like bitching about Apple trying to be the internet monopoly and all that. I am sick and tired of all this Apple hate!

Qt on Android? Never heard of that.

Well, Apple's page seems to emphasize HTML5 and its power, while on the other hand Google would probably explicitly brag about their Chrome browser. If Apple would rephrase the text to say something like "Look how cool Safari (and only Safari) is! You can do all this awesome stuff using HTML5, CSS etc." my reaction would be neutral or more positive.

C'est la vie

Once you're suspect, you're suspect. If you've got the benefit of the doubt, you've got the benefit of the doubt.

Overall, that's probably more good then bad. We'd like to think we can be objective, but we probably can't. These crutches are there for a reason.

No, because Google is not /restricting/ it. They're using the advanced features, not being bouncers deciding who to let into their party or not based on the color of their shirt.

So, when MS crippled web development for years with it's browser strategy and proprietary crap it was widely considered very harmful for the web. Now, when Apple does it, it's "pushing the web forward"? We would all use ActiveX controls and be stuck with IE6 if everyone would think like you. And i would argue every company would get the same "hate". Even worse, we've all had this in the past, now we should do everything to keep things a standard and open, because we know where it leads.

Your comment betrays an extreme misunderstanding of vendor prefixes and the nature of standards development compared to a proprietary system of browser plug-ins. See other comments on this page. And it wasn’t ActiveX that crippled web development, buster. It was the lack of progress and support for emerging web standards like CSS2 and PNG. By contributing to standards, the Webkit team creates the exact opposite effect of IE6. (Accidentally upvoted)

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