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There is some UI chrome that is the responsibility of the browser, not the content within it. Back button, refresh button, scroll bars, address bar, etc. These should be off limits to the content within the web view.

The only person who cares what the scroll bars look like is the designer of the content within the web view. They have mistakenly thought that this is their responsibility.

If it is such an issue for the designer, maybe they should implement designs that are complimentary to the scroll bar?

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> they should implement designs that are complimentary to the scroll bar?

that's impossible because, as I said in the comment above, every browser has it's own scroll bar forced upon the user, especially if you factor in mobile browser and their slim, thin black translucent bar (which only appears when you scroll so you don't even know something is scrollable... talk about good design uh?)

Forced? The browser and OS are the one thing that the user DOES choose! If I don't like the way it works, I can use another one or change the config. If the web designer chooses to change the scrollbars on their site, I have no choice when using their site.

I think it betrays a pretty limited understanding of design, to declare a design task impossible because color-coordination can't be scoped in. Prioritizing aesthetics over function usually defeats both.

Meanwhile in the real world aesthetics play a big role in corporate/brand identity and corporate that care enough will build horrendous kludges to work around the limitations of browser styling, but once again it has proven a fool errand to argue with the ivory tower warriors that inhabits the websites for the technically minded.

I'm gonna take your word for it tho and will use the complain button on that Bulgari page to let them know their solution "betrays a pretty limited understanding of design" and they will need your more competent service. /s

> Meanwhile in the real world aesthetics play a big role in corporate/brand identity and corporate that care enough will build horrendous kludges to work around the limitations of browser styling

The browser scrollbar shouldn't be part of the corporate/brand identity any more than the browser menu, address bar or navigation buttons. Navigation belongs to the user, not the webpage designer.

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