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I think I get his point though.... even if it is not articulated well:

The GOVERNMENT'S actions against illegal immigrants and pirates is bad.

but the ACTIONS of individual pirates and illegal immigrants are not necessarily bad

Certain groups hate pirates and lose profits due to them

Certain groups hate immigrants and lose "jobs" to them....

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Name a fucking job that a mexican worker is currently doing that you would do?

Would you pick tomatoes? Lettuce? Will you cook me a burrito? Will you wash my dishes? Will you make me sushi?

I have long said, if the Mexican Rapture happened, you will starve to death....

IMO that is their point. Why build a wall when literally 90% of our nutrition-economy depends on Mexican HARD-WORKING people. It is lunacy and ignorance to say anything different.

I say that the Mexican-American population have a week of protest and just not go to work to show the freaking population exactly what constitutes the foundation of this economy. It surely isn't wall street.

Celebrity chefs are what % white? How many people do those people feed?

How many mexicans/foreigners in Mar-A-Lago? (sorry what language is 'mar-a-lago'?

Jesus! only a moron would think that mexican HARD working people in the US are a problem... how about the largess of the oligarchy?

EDIT EDIT EDIT:

JESUS FUCKING CHRIST; I actually agreed with you @rfrank but you acted like a dick.

> Name a fucking job that a mexican worker is currently doing that you would do? Would you pick tomatoes? Lettuce? Will you cook me a burrito? Will you wash my dishes? Will you make me sushi?

I've had a variant of all those jobs, so.. yeah. Don't project your hesitation to do physical labor onto other people.

How many music pirates have murdered someone this year? The point is still garbage, even in longform.

> I have long said, if the Mexican Rapture happened, you will starve to death....

That you consider this an actual point is a fucking joke.

Sure, Ill take your points...

So, exactly what are you doing now? Are you pulling lettuce?

[I am not attacking or berating you, but I want to understand.. so please educate me, I am not trying to be offenssive i Just disagree with you]

So, to my second point; would you be willing to compile data regarding those who work in the food service industry and determine what % of them actually feed people based on mexican heritage? I dont think this data exists, but happy to help find out...

This, really, is what immigration policy should be built around. I believe that youre emotional/passionate about the subject which is fantastic... let me change your view/or you mine, but yeah - we cant let emotions lead (which I can give you LOTS of information about how emotions are used to steer populations....)

>How many music pirates have murdered someone this year?

Considering half of Americans pirate music I'm sure that there have been plenty of murders by pirates this year. But it would be stupid to go around arresting music pirates and claim we're preventing murders.

And if pirating music involved breaking into the office of a record company and stealing a CD off their shelf, the comparison to piracy might be valid. But it's not.

You clearly misunderstand my comments... [we are on the same side] --- but youre very belligerent, and that is fine... but clarify what side youre on? Humanity or...

> Name a fucking job that a mexican worker is currently doing that you would do? Would you pick tomatoes? Lettuce? Will you cook me a burrito? Will you wash my dishes? Will you make me sushi? I have long said, if the Mexican Rapture happened, you will starve to death....

I understand them perfectly. If you want a discussion, try entering it in good faith, with someone who hasn't already expressed interest in avoiding the subject further.

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