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first of all, this report is propaganda (also known as fake news) to demonize the syrian government [0][1]

second, amnesty international is NGO funded by George Soros; so it's expected to be politically biased, and cannot be trusted [2][3]

third, none of their evidence can be used in court, they are all based on hearsays, that's one of tricks one's can use to tell a propaganda from news based on facts

more history on amnesty international propaganda [4]

[0] http://landdestroyer.blogspot.com/2017/02/amnesty-internatio... [1] http://21stcenturywire.com/2017/02/12/syria-uk-academic-slam... [2] https://www.opensocietyfoundations.org/about/programs/us-pro... [3] https://www.opensocietyfoundations.org/about [4] http://21stcenturywire.com/2017/01/28/syria-the-amnesty-inte...

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> this report is propaganda (also known as fake news)

While propaganda can be biased or misleading, I'm reminded of the quote that the best salesmen tell only the truth, but a selective truth that closes the sale.

>second, amnesty international is NGO funded by George Soros; so it's expected to be politically biased, and cannot be trusted

Ad hominem attack.

> none of their evidence can be used in court, they are all based on hearsays, that's one of tricks one's can use to tell a propaganda from news based on facts

There's plenty of places where hearsay can be used, although I'm sure Amnesty International can pay a plane ticket to get a witness to a court. And just because it's propaganda, doesn't mean it isn't news based on facts. For example, lots of stuff coming out of the Pentagon. Back to my first rebuttal, that just because it's propaganda doesn't mean it's not true.

> Ad hominem attack.

ok, your point, that accusation does not add much to the argument, and it does not negate the facts I presented? I'm questioning the motive behind the report. and questioning the integrity of amnesty international with supporting facts. it's like someone questioning a propaganda by nazi germany, as it promotes hitler agenda. would you accuse that someone with "Ad hominem attack"

> And just because it's propaganda, doesn't mean it isn't news based on facts.

what facts? this argument is pointless, hearsay is not fact, and hearsay is not admissible in court, that's a fact; we are talking about people who behead other people and eat their liver, do you think it would be too hard for them to make up some stuff and lie. unless they show verifiable facts about dates, locations, victim names, etc.. you can only assume it's fabricated lies.

you should watch a canadian journalist who went to syria and listened to eye witnesses [1], that's a fact, not a report of anonymous people claiming stuff

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1VNQGsiP8M&t=810s

> Ad hominem attack.

That is not the definition of an ad-hominem attack. An ad-hominem attack is "yeah you have good points, but you smell bad".

Pointing out funding sources is a way to identify _likely_ bias.

Their testimony can be used to build a case against Assad in any future international tribunal.

that's exactly the problem, we don't know who they are, there's no proof they are prison guards or prisoners

and given amnesty history of fabricating lies in the past (as I mentioned above) once can conclude this is a case of another propaganda.

I'm disappointed to see your root comment in the [dead] pile. It's hard to tell why that is exactly.

I'm guessing HN users are drinking too much of Hillary's kool aid, therefore they are pro warmongering, pro intervention, and pro causing suffering on the syrian people in the name of saving them. The linked article is great news for them, and my criticism is not acceptable.

corrected: was "only admins can downvote" which is incorrect

> only admins can downvote

Both downvoting and flagging (which leads to [dead] [flagged] marking, such as your post) can be done by normal users. (downvotes requires a few hundred karma, flagging is available a lot earlier if I remember right)

thank you for your correction, downvoting is not shown for me, so, that was a wrong guess by me.

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