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Comparing Sweden to Chicago seems a bit of a stretch. A number more directly comparable would be the US Non-Black homicide rate, which was 2.54 per 100,000 in 2015.

I think that's lower than the Sweden figure in the sibling comment.

[Edit: I had said that this rate was also lower than England. I was wrong on that one. ]

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2015/crime-in-the-u.s.-...

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The actual rate for Sweden and the UK is 0.9, each. So even the 'non-black' rate in the US is higher than both, put together.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intenti...

I recommend double checking reference tables in Wikipedia.

It is conveniently displayed first in search results, however for Sweden:

https://www.bra.se/download/18.358de3051533ffea5ea7f2cf/1459...

  > 305 Completed murder, manslaughter and assault resulting in death.
  > 9,851,017 Total population

= 3.1 per 100000 people

The differences are due to different definitions of intentional homicide between countries, which is why I would argue a UN study with its own definition is better for comparison than a Swedish and US source.

I was wrong on England's rate. Thanks for the correction!

Well, considering the Malmo rate is 3.4, it's still quite a factor reduced from that. Malmo might be considered the most 'dangerous' city in Sweden (please correct me if anyone disagrees? I guess Stockholm is probably statistically a better choice due to the sheer size difference).

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