Simply calling someone "hateful" is an emotional argument at this point, and hurting discourse.
Simply calling someone "hateful" is an emotional argument at this point, and hurting discourse.
One argument I hear is that Islam is fundamentally incompatible with the West's values, that immigrants from those countries don't integrate well, and that the dangerous ideas within Islam aren't limited to radical fundamentalists. Under this view, a temporary ban is not necessarily a bad idea, nor is it necessarily racist except in the literal sense.
I disagree with this — I think the perfectly reasonable people from those countries need to be shown compassion, not to be lumped in with their oppressors — but the discussion should be about that, not who can scream "racist" louder.
No, everyone knows racism is ostracised. Plenty people cherish it. And now that there is less stigma with racist president in charge, they come out of closets.
I don't see how that is not clear. I thought it was clear. I thought people defending these executive orders think it's all fine and good to basically blacklist entire countries and every person on earth who is a citizen of those countries.
Because you're not even using the right word? Discriminating by country is not racist, it's xenophobic.
Otherwise everyone who says American tourists are annoying or has a stereotype about Americans is racist by your definition.
If you replace "racism" with "discrimination" (or where applicable, "xenophobia") my comments here may make more sense.
>certain areas of the world produce people who seek to do us harm.
What's your definition of race? It's a hard thing to define since it doesn't objectively exist, but I think 'people from certain areas of the world' is pretty indistinguishable from what most people mean by race.
[1] https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2017/jan/29/donald-...
To the "alt-right", fundamentalist christians, nationalists or simply less-informed conservatives someone from the middle east may appear to have a similarly fundamentally incompatible value-system as a nazi would have to an american in the 1930s or a commie during the cold war.
Race and Nationality are a proxy for religion and culture which is a proxy for value systems. And value systems are what people disagree with and vote against.
Um, no it is not.