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Among other folks as well [0]. Of note, the US was not the only country to turn away refugees during WWII. Also of note, from what I've read, refugee immigration has been temporarily halted from certain countries with the exemption being refugees from minority religions in those countries.

[0] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/MS_St._Louis

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I also read the same regarding minority religions. Although the price I saw was only citing a draft of the executive order. I wonder when, they haven't already, publish the final version.

The countries to which the bans apply are all majority Muslim, so the exemption would apply to non-Muslims.

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/01/26/511903885/...

"Trump's Refugee Plan Will Prioritize Christians Suffering Religious Persecution"

The precise wording of the order/legislation may not mention any specific religion, but the intent is clear. Specific countries will be targeted, and exceptions within those countries will be granted, to ensure that Muslims aren't able to get in but Christians can sail right through.

Expect to see lots of recently converted Christians...

You already have that, it's not uncommon for those who immigrate to Europe to throw away their passports claim they are Christian and under age in order to not fear deportation and pretty much be immediately accepted.

Sadly this leads to some surreal events such as this: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3422000/Just-old-thi...

I wouldn't put it past the authorities to implement something along the lines of a "bacon test".

These were common during the inquisition to test convert Jews.

Not really, initially in the inquisition they let them to choose - convert or be expelled, later convert or die, then they just gave up on the conversion all together.

Anusim are Jews who were coerced to convert: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anusim

All in all there isn't much need to do a bacon test for either Muslims or Jews, at least for men, just make them strip if they are circumcised you know exactly who they are.

It will probably work about as well as torture.

Looks like it works, but you simply force people to lie - be that via false confessions or going against halal/kosher practice.

put some liquor shots on top of that

majority Muslim

There's various ideologies of that, and some of that are aggressive (repressive) towards the others, which is exactly what is leading to refugee problems in Europe. Is the law going to paper over that difference?

Had similar exemptions been applied in war-time Europe the Franks may well have been saved.

This specific exception would obviously not have made any sense back then, considering the vast majority of refugees belonged to the minority religion.

I actually just tried to find out what the attitude towards jewish refugees was in the US and happened upon this eerily pertinent passage:

    Out of fear that the Nazis could smuggle spies and
    saboteurs in with refugees, immigration officials
    tightened visa policies for immigrants and non-
    immigrants. The State Department urged its diplomatic
    consuls in Europe to screen potential immigrants
    carefully, including those fleeing persecution,

(from https://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10007094)

And interestingly, Germans that were at that time not even considering to migrate to the US (Werner von Braun anyone?) were just forced...

This comment has the funny smell of a, "you too," [0] argument fallacy.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tu_quoque

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