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Comment by berry_sortoro | Hacker News Reader

So I am a Neo-Nazi for using a the word Lügenpresse for press the lies and lies over and over again?

And of course you link another fake news article claiming this word has roots on Nazi Germany when in fact this is a lie, its roots are in fact from earlier. But why care and do some actual research when you can just read political correct MSM Lügenpresse?

This guild by association BS does not work on people who can actually think for themselves. Because certain people in history used a word, does not mean everybody who uses it again is also part of this group/believe/mindset/... . But that of course how you political correct people tick. In your minds you create this tainted words nobody should dare to touch ever again because god beware someone evil used them brefore. Your creating a mind prison for yourselves its ridiculous!

Is HN a save space for PCs? I will find out sooner then later I guess.

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'Are you a neo-Nazi?' No-one here knows, but you certainly sound like one. The swastika carries a very potent and toxic meaning today that it didn't until the last century or so. If you think symbolism and language are namby pamby liberal constructs with no inherent meaning, I'd encourage you to spray paint one on your house or have one tattooed on your forehead and see if the people you encounter as a result share your disdain for 'political correctness'.

I doubt you are a neo-Nazi. But words have meaning, and while this may just be an abstract game of righteous keyboard warfare to you, perhaps if you have an issue with the objectivity or accuracy of the media it would be best to say that plainly. Code words and innuendo directed at other members of your clique won't convince anyone and may well offend people with a better grasp on history (though that was likely your intention).

Speaking of doing research, you might find actually reading the link undercuts your attempt to claim fake news: the second paragraph, for example, makes it clear that the term predates Nazi Germany by almost a century before noting ‘Lügenpresse refers to any medium that does not reflect the user’s own worldview, and must therefore be propagated by a hated “Other”.’.

The reason why I used “neo-Nazi” was that, again as noted in the article and many other sources, the term was avoided for years until various extremist groups started using it. Until Trump supporters started trying to normalize hatred for the media, I only saw it used by people who were also sharing anti-Semitic slurs and cartoons, racist memes, etc.

I'm sure, of course, that you already know the negative implications and were just trying to get a reaction but that doesn't mean there's any value to dragging that particular mess into this thread. There are plenty of corners of the internet where you can scratch that particular itch without polluting a discussion about a website enabling a security feature.

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