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I can only assume people like to be heard, and repeating the ideas heard in the echo chamber can be very reassuring when everyone agrees with you.

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Not in this instance. I know that there were still a lot of unanswered questions, like exactly how badly is battery life affected (not just measured in Wh), and how does real world performance compare (not just Geekbench numbers).

Also, for those making a $2k+ purchasing decision, it pays to do a little research as to what other people who work in similar situations think about the different options.

I read a lot of reviews for MacBooks, Lenovo T4xx series, Dell XPS models, etc. Just like with any other topic, the color of varied opinions helps one arrive at a better understanding.

Complaining about Apple and the MacBook Pro has become a pretty dominant topic on Hacker News from the last few months. I really do think this negativity about the product has become excessive, and it's the first time I've personally been annoyed about something like this on HN in four years of reading the site more or less daily.

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Since my comment is abrasive -- much more so than normal for me here on HN -- I figured it was worth it for me to put some more effort into this and provide some evidence. I easily came up with the following list of topics here from the last month:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13315262

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13244357

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13251401

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13253390

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13157832

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13172903

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13214754

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13164534

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13220623

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13217008

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13337727 (note that, while the headline is a bit general, much of the discussion is related to the new MBP)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13169060

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13185428

I just stopped after this point. There were more.

Thanks. I even posted on some of these as I was caught up in the discussion, but the discussion is over. There's nothing new to be added right now, and certainly nothing new to be added by some random person's irrelevant opinion.

Well, I guess we'd just have to go back to reposting Aaron Swartz articles.

HN is a cesspool of negativity. I can see how different people would be turned away by hate for Yahoo/Twitter doing badly, hate for fb/uber, constant jealousy against startups that had an exit in the past few days (pretending as sanity about valuations), etc.

Thankfully there is a lot of positivity, though you have to look harder for it.

Nah, it only shows the amount of frustration over it and fear for the future.

It's almost as if....people are really unhappy and disappointed.

Imagine being on a Muscle Car Enthusiast forum, and Ford released a V8 Mustang that had less horsepower than it's predecessor, and worse handling, but just came with minor stylistic upgrades. The same thing would be happening.

People love their Macs very much, hence all the venting. All they want is Apple to build them the proverbial faster horse.

You're right. There seems to be a group of people who really like talking about the new MBP, particularly what a travesty they feel it is.

For the rest of us, it is an equipment choice that might have to make at some point, and the we'll go back to work on our code ;).

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