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You do realize that Stack Overflow and Twilio are Fog Creek products yea?

Twilio (SMS and voice infra and APIs) is not related to Fog Creek.

Trello (project management) and Stack Overflow were spun off from Fog Creek parent company, but are not run by Fog Creek.

Does it matter who runs them? Are the various subsidiaries of abc now not to ever be associated with 'Google'? That's naive and shortsighted.

You mean Trello, not Twilio right?

maybe auto correct? :)