Please don't create HN accounts to break the site guidelines with.
Now they are harassed, sometimes even to the point they decide to leave their neighbourhoods. It is not safe anymore to hold hands or kiss for gay couples in public spaces in Amsterdam.
Young women without their hair covered are considered fair game by muslim youth and are less safe than before. Some students are actually starting to cover their hair in the evening to prevent getting harassed.
Amsterdam past a 'law' last week to try to counter this harassment but it has no teeth, will be unenforceable.
Not talking about problems do not make them go away.
I am not afraid.
I am not sure how much I agree with your position. My late father taught me something which I still enjoy to this day, almost weekly.
He was a civil servant. 'People who feel they are not listened to will get angry.' So first you do listen to a citizen(customer), then you defend your position.
I wish YC would unflag the OP.
It's not impossible to write a survivable comment expressing (what I presume to be) the same kernel of thought that comment did, but to do so requires more careful writing and more clarity of thought than that comment had.
Recklessly inflammatory comments don't survive on HN, and that's a good thing.
But still.
It's comments like those that derail reasonable conversations and make people like me want to stay the fuck away.
1. "Why let them in in the first place? Why this obsession western Europe has with self destruction?"
Although loaded, these are questions. Maybe we should be able to answer these to this angry citizen. Apparently we failed.
2. "I'm soooooo looking forward to the rise of the far right"
So here he is suggesting his solution. Well, that is just his opinion man.
3. "of all the news, of my girlfriend telling me how she doesn't feel secure walking alone in the city, I'm just so fucking tired of all of this, and over time it's just going to get worse."
And here he is describing how he feels and how it affects him.
In a very real way, supporting the far-right is supporting terrorists[1]. And if we can excuse that, how can we blame extremist Muslims for supporting their own version?
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-wing_terrorism#Europe
Millions of people have died under far-right regimes. Cheering them on is not funny and it's not an ordinary opinion. It is cheering for an ideology that has murdered millions of people within living memory.
I am pretty sure that OP would prefer some more centered political forces to solve the problem. But so far any other forces do not want even to admit its existence.
We've asked you many times to stop doing this, and you appear to have responded by creating new accounts to keep doing what we asked you not to do, and worse, using them in the same thread to create the false appearance of multiple voices.
These behaviors are bannable offences on Hacker News, so we've banned your accounts. If you don't want to be banned, you're welcome to email hn@ycombinator.com. We unban accounts if their owners give us reason to believe that they'll change and use the site as intended from now on.
Not only is that irrelevant in this discussion, as it's downright false. Many people were calling Castro evil and getting upvoted:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13042948
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13043663
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13042972
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13043292
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13044334
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13042779
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13042486
There are many more, I got tired after scrolling about 30% of the thread.
Regarding safety, you're telling me that your girlfriend will feel safe walking alone once there are no Muslims? Makes sense, I guess, since we Muslims designed the concepts of rape and burglary.
Seriously though, there is some merit to what Italy is doing, but such a system can easily be abused. Extremism - of any kind! - is a tough problem to deal with.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out - Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out - Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me - and there was no one left to speak for me."
When you have an invading culture that doesn't respect their host country's cultures and laws, that's called a problem and should be dealt with.
It's entirely appropriate. Every country cannot be under attack by oncoming waves of Muslim immigrants and by a corrupt liberal elite at the same time. The OP, now flagged and removed, was openly cheering for the rise of far-right governments in Europe, and was spouting far-right rhetoric.
Quoting a poem about the last time far-right governments took over Europe is very appropriate. Fascism must be opposed root and branch: any seemingly "relevant" points made in the name of fascism are in bad-faith, and are only being made to justify the advancement of fascism.
And the biggest one is is s/he willing to conform to the country they'll be moving to and assimilate to your country's culture etc?
Those are pretty damn big reasons to not let someone in.
Do you need examples?
Apparently you weren't born during Balkan wars.
It's interesting that even behind a green account, apparently created just to comment here, you're neither willing nor able to mention what city your girlfriend is too scared to walk alone in, for fear of the Muslim hordes.
I don't know what's more disappointing, the low effort in your comment, or how readily people seem to be falling for the bait. We should demand higher standards, even from trolls.
I love enlightened Europeans attitudes as soon as they don't get their way.
It's not ok to violate the rules here, regardless of how badly other commenters have done so or how wrong they are. Otherwise we just get into a descending spiral. So please don't do this.