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Also, as a Jew, welcome to being a minority: you'll live.

That wasn't true for 5-6 million of your minority in WWII....

You're welcome to square Hillary calling me "irredeemable" with the Left's treatment of such people, the National Socialist German Workers' Party providing just one particularly relevant example to your and my discussion here.

As for "guilty", white guilt is a thing that goes way beyond "conspiracy websites" or "idiotic Twitter feeds": https://www.google.com/search?q=white+guilt

To finish, with you being a Jew, "What you mean 'we,' kemosabe?" You're very much correct to weasel word "kinda-technically-white".

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> You're welcome to square Hillary calling me "irredeemable" with the Left's treatment of such people, the National Socialist German Workers' Party providing just one particularly relevant example to your and my discussion here.

The NSDAP isn't an example of the "left" (they copied the name of an earlier Austrian political party, whose basic platform they adapted as their public platform, removing all the remotely leftist planks and adding new exclusionary nationalist ones.)

Also, it's kind of odd that you'd bring them up as a negative example, since the same kind of exclusionary deportationist policy you advocate for Jews is what they publicly advocated and practiced, I initially focusing on excluding, before progressing to the other branch of the "exclude or eliminate" that you have endorsed.

You may not identify as a neo-Nazi or White Nationalist and may have a deep aversion to that label, but the policies you enthusiastically embrace are the definitive core of White Nationalism and very hard to distinguish from the substance of neo-Nazi belief.

Clinton's remarks did not reflect well upon her and were revealing about her attitude towards a large number of people.

That said, her meaning was not "Trump Supporter"->"irredeemable", it was "racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic"->"irredeemable".

It's weird to claim "irredeemable" as a badge if you aren't also claiming one of those other things as a badge.

As the Left defines them, I am every one of "racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic".

Although you would think more would realize by now "The Race Card is Maxed Out": http://www.cc.com/video-clips/m0pvy5/the-daily-show-with-jon...

Could you maybe spell out what you believe the left believes then?

At the base, in the perfectibility of man, as I discussed elsewhere in this subthread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13055322 Pretty much everything flows from that.

No, I mean the specific belief the left would use to decide on each label.

No, I can't really tell you, it's all in my view at this point just whatever comes handy to declare your enemy as being doubleplusungood and beyond the pale.

To take the best personal example I have, in my lifetime, since I became politically and socially aware in the very early '70s, "racist" meant something, something effectively concrete, something real and observable. Now can mean something as anodyne as disagreeing with an opinion or position of Obama's.

No, I can't really tell you, it's all in my view at this point just whatever comes handy to declare your enemy as being doubleplusungood and beyond the pale.

This is not an accurate understanding.

But it is a useful point for the conversation to reach. If you are not willing to evaluate the accuracy of that belief, you also won't give consideration to other arguments that contradict it.

>To finish, with you being a Jew, "What you mean 'we,' kemosabe?" You're very much correct to weasel word "kinda-technically-white".

I like how you try to blame the Holocaust on the Left, and then admit that you're an alt-right neo-Nazi who fully intends that Jews be excluded if not eliminated from society.

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