Are you ignoring the part where I said "when you involve stretching?"
The claim was that salting is irrelevant compared to stretching. It is not. It is still unbelievably important even when doing stretching.
The claim was that salting is irrelevant compared to stretching. It is not. It is still unbelievably important even when doing stretching.
The other scenario is when you doing a single pass of a hash, in which case the salt is irrelevant for the security of that password.
Everyone here understands that you need to salt when your dictionary takes a long time to build (Say, more than 1 millisecond/password, which equals 2.5 billion passwords/month) - not everyone appreciates that salting a fast password (more than 2.5 billion passwords/second) - adds no security to that particular password.
The scenario where there is moderate "stretching" (by which I presume you mean running multiple iterations of a hash), with no randomized salt, is a bit of a straw man - who would bother to go the effort of "stretching" and not stick a randomized salt in while they are at it?