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Literally everything in my life is more important to me than any aspect of your mother

Did we not ask you repeatedly not to do this? We've banned this account.

"Eff you, I gots mine" is not the robust survival strategy you might think it is.

I don't know you, but I hope your mother is doing ok, and I hope she will do better under a Trump presidency than I think she will. There's actually plenty of parts of my life that I'd consider giving up or changing if I could guarantee a better future for both your mom and mine, now that your post implicitly asks that question.

My post did not ask the question. I don't care one whit about your feelings for my mother, because you don't know her at all. You don't even know if she's alive or if I even know her. You are simply virtue signaling.

For that matter, although I don't particularly care, your uncharitable and incorrect summation of my view is also just virtue signaling. We get it! You have tremendous morals, the best morals.

No, I actually want to figure out how to live side by side. This shit is terrifying. Please stop talking past me and imagining an enemy that doesn't exist.

(Also: I'm aware your post didn't ask the question. It was implicit... which is why I said implicitly. I do have the best vocabulary, tremendous vocab words folks. A lot of people are saying Trump voters have trouble with bigly words. Sad!)

My point is that you inferred a question that was not asked implicitly or otherwise, not that I needed a definition of implicit. I did not talk past you. I simply deny your arrogant assumption upon which you base your understanding of me.

Your terror is no more my responsibility than your putative mother's health. I don't consider you an enemy. In fact, I don't really consider you, because as a human being I have limited capacity for things like love and I save that capacity for the many people I actually know and deal with in my life.

My assumption was based on your words.

I think you're confused on the difference between love, compassion and compatriotism. I don't expect you to love me or anyone outside of your own circle, but if you were hoping to make america great again without compassion or compatriotism, I'll enjoy watching the attempt.

Ahh, now if I were a man who liked reading into things people say, I'd go with inferring that you believe I am a trump supporter. You are incorrect if that is the case.

Now, on to the point. I'm dead curious. Here are my words:

> Literally everything in my life is more important to me than any aspect of your mother

Where is the question implied in there? I endeavor to speak precisely, and I have heard it posited that it is incumbent upon the speaker to eliminate misunderstandings in the listener, so let's put it to the test. Demonstrate how that virtue signalling question you inferred from my words comes from my words and not solely your head.

That I did assume - but only because you misused virtue signaling twice in two sentences, which is a Trumpie tell. You might have just picked it up from Twitter?

Also, don't post an excised version of your flagged tweet and then expect me not to catch it. Nice try, troll. Here's your flag, I was game right up until you were intellectually dishonest and sloppy on top of it.

Hmm. This isn't twitter, and I quoted my entire post. What, exactly, are you on about?

Edit: ah wait I see, you think I'm trying to karma bump my sentiment, but to what end? It's parented under the flagged version of itself and I hardly care if I accumulate more internet points. I'm just trying to figure out why you think flogging your morals at me is worthwhile.

You need to a hard look at your self for saying that

I've taken a long hard look at myself and I share oldmanjay's sentiments.

You have other beliefs and other priorities, that's fine with me.

Out of interest, how would you summarize your political views?

You are perfectly entitled to your views, but they appear to be so completely different to my own that I am genuinely interested to find out what you believe.

[NB As a bit of background I'm from the UK, strongly in favour of the socialist NHS we have and happy to pay taxes so that everyone in our country can get pretty decent healthcare "free at the point of delivery"]

Edit: I upvoted you because I don't think people should be downvoted just for making that comment.

I applaud your efforts to understand this as I'm eager to also. It's a mentality or similar to one I've found myself in deadlock with before. For example, I asked a relative of mine if they would sacrifice themselves to save the lives of N number of people and there was no value of N they considered worth more than their own life. This relative found it uncomfortably easy to ignore and even justify the suffering of strangers. Not to say that the GP feels precisely this way. I'd hate to ascribe this particular belief to anybody that didn't directly espouse it.

I think that's a completely different argument and one that I'm not sure anyone could come up with a sensible answer unless they were actually put in that position.

However, I can definitely understand the argument that being forced to pay taxes to pay for the healthcare of other people is unfair. I just happen to not agree with it but I don't think its unreasonable that other people don't agree with me on that point.

Agreed, and sorry, didn't mean to imply they were similar arguments at all.

I believe this book will help you to understand: https://archive.org/stream/MightIsRight_966/MightIsRight#pag...

In case anyone is wondering what that link is:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Might_Is_Right

Let's take that long hard look. What aspects of a woman I never met should be more important to me than things that are in my life, and for bonus virtue signaling, why?

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