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From an outsider's perspective: superdelegates. Stein hit the nail on the head regarding the Democrat campaign[1]. Moderates swung to non-participation, their vote for Bernie actually meant nothing.

[1]: http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/11/jill-stein-expect-trou...

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A lot of Bernie supporters were college kids who spared whatever money they could and donated only to find, it was rigged, their money was stolen and given to Hillary instead.

I think people have no idea how much this was a vote against Hillary. Look at Trump, even with all his rhetoric and crazy statements he made, they still picked him! That says a lot about Hillary and the DNC and the campaign they ran.

It also didn't help that Hillary didn't have any results in countering that narrative. She just hunkered down, said things about her background which sounded very politician-y, and kept the spotlight on trump. Turns out this was a terrible strategy.

Sad thing is, I'm expecting the DNC to try and pull exactly the same stunt next time round. As per their campaign; blame will be cast in every direction except internally.

Even if our Norwegian right wing is pretty much more to the left than your left wing, our left wing behaves in exactly the same way here.

Their last campaign was pretty much "if you choose them, the world will end", instead of trying to present their own policies and how they would improve things.

And they're still completely arrogant about it. It seems they will repeat their strategy the next time, but then they are in opposition, which is an easier game to play. Also, they try to blame the entire economic slowdown on the current government, even though the oil price fall is unprecedented (and Norwegian industry is seriously oil driven)...

Sigh, I'm so tired of politics. It's all about blame and ideology instead of stuff that actually matters to people.

Is there any decent account in how the primaries were "rigged"? It seems Bernie lost even without super-delegates, with millions of votes in difference.

They weren't - Clinton won a comfortable majority of primary voters. Bernie voters simply overstate how much support he had among the Democratic base.

I'm admittedly exhausted from all this, but wasn't there something about the caucus states not getting counted the same way?

In any case, she lost 40% of her party and really did nothing to reach back out to it. And Trump capitalized way back in April on that by planting the seed suggesting himself that Bernie should make the 3rd party run.

I share the sentiment: She lost more than he won.

>Bernie voters simply overstate how much support he had among the Democratic base.

What the DNC ignored was the passion and enthusiasm that Bernie and Bernie supporters had and brought to the issues and the election. Bernie filled places. Several thousand came to see him in La Crosse, WI at the Onalaska Civic Center. Only a few hundred, hand picked, supporters (were allowed and) saw Hillary in La Crosse, WI at Western Technical College.

HRC's campaign lacked passion and enthusiasm.

Questionable but not necessarily incorrect. Clinton lost.

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