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and Freedom Force was a joke

What was wrong with Freedom Force? City of Heroes, it was not, but it was a fun little game. It also had a great modding community before the cease-and-desist orders from Marvel started.

Scored well critically, too: http://www.gamerankings.com/pc/340353-freedom-force/index.ht...

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I agree. It was a great VIDEOGAME. Bleeding edge graphics -- nope, but it made up for it in spades with good, fun gameplay. Reminded me (in substance rather than style) of a PC-equivalent to a first-party Nintendo game -- not everything needs to be a sweeping epic of action movie sizzle, or super dramatic story telling. Call me old fashioned, but sometimes I like playing videogames that are games.

Scored well, but of the few people I know who owned it no one finished more than a few levels. It lacked a compelling goo, for me.

I played through the entire game in 2004 (the original, not Third Reich.) The ending works pretty well emotionally. There were a few levels that almost got me to quit, though, particularly the underground/ant levels.

I played through the whole original Freedom Force when it was originally released. Loved it. Didn't go for the "Third Reich" expansion because I was not super interested in more WW2 sounding stuff at that point and as a youth my gaming budget was quite restrained.

Scored well yes, so did tribe vengeance (was 80-85%) and SWAT 4 doesn't mean they were a success.

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The link is for the original game, FF vs the 3rd Reich was released in 2005.

It doesn't meant they were a success, but you said Freedom Force was a joke, and it wasn't. The scores don't prove anything, but support that is wasn't a joke.

Any game that diesn't sell well and make a lot of money for the studio is a joke.

I think this isn't necessarily true, especially in an era where returning to underground/cult IPs that didn't sell well is becoming a more common strategy. Shenmue 2 and Nier were both games that didn't make back nearly enough to support the developers, and yet they both have anticipated sequels on the horizon that devs/fans/news outlets are taking seriously.

A joke in that almost no one bought it and it's utterly forgotten, look at the Wikipedia entries for those titles vs other games ;)

Tribes: Vengeance was awful. Irrational/Vivendi destroyed the franchise and back-stabbed an amazing modding community.

Amen. They could have phoned in a re-skinned/graphically updated Tribes 2 and it would have been an improvement.

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