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I LOVE Apple products! I treasure Iphone and it's safe and fun ecosysten. I love the simplicity of OSX. I love the professional appearance of a Macbook Pro... as a user. Or as an observer even.

Because professionally, I've been on Windows, Linux and Android for years. And with Windows where it's at now, I've never been more productive.

Just can't seem to get that across to my Apple-friends and Apple-coworkers.

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Any recommendation for a MacBook Pro equivalent running Windows?

One reason I'm stuck with Mac is the need to use it for iOS app development.

Yes, it's called the MacBook Pro. It runs Windows, natively, just fine. In fact, PC World once ranked it as the best Windows laptop.

Macbooks run Windows, but the driver support is pretty horrendous from Apple. Basically, they say it runs and stop supporting it after that. I cannot get a graphics driver update at all. Another good example is that TRRS does not work at all for Windows and this is 100% a driver issue.

I have no problems installing the Radeon drivers on my mid 2015 MBP and not using the default Apple ones.

Graphics drivers are by no means the only drivers that require updates.

I haven't said they were, they are however the most important ones since everything else is pretty bog standard.

A Windows pc for a Mac price? What's not to like.

I'm not sure if the new MacBook Pro's Touch Bar is usable under Windows.

That's probably going to change with the new touch bar.

Given the popularity of Macs for running Windows, I would not assume this. There's no reason why Microsoft can't write drivers for the Touch Bar.

Dell XPS 15.

- Build quality is excellent

- The form factor is terrific (physical size of a 14-incher)

- You can get it with the latest desktop i7s and a boatload of RAM

- Good battery life (skip the 4k screen)

Lenovo t4 line for durability, Asus zenbook for power: price

If you get a lappy with a 1080 screen (no higher), you may be surprised how well osx runs in VMware. Higher dpi than that and the ui is too small, though.

And if you're adventurous, you could always convert a pc into a hackintosh. It's usually just fiddling with some drivers and swapping out a WiFi card.

All my iOS dev. is now done with Xamarin on Visual Studio on Windows with a headless Mac Mini sitting in the background.

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