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The Macbook Pro they're boasting as a possible replacement for the Air has the new key tech which they mentioned in the keynote as having more travel distance, it keeps the old FN keys, and it has two thunderbolt ports.

So yes, changing the ports isn't ideal and only having one to use to plug in peripherals which will most likely mean a hub is required is a bit of a pain, but the low end doesn't even include the touch bar so I'm not sure what you're getting upset about?

Plus, the current generation of Macbook Pros weren't expandible as far as I'm aware? I've got the 15" rMBP and I can't upgrade anything within it, so I doubt Apple is too concerned anymore about allowing expansion in their laptops and I could see that trend spreading across the rest of the industry as well.

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The new keyboard has less key travel, not more. From the Macbook page:

> So we designed a unique butterfly mechanism, which is wider than the scissor mechanism and has a single assembly made from a stiffer material — allowing for a more stable, responsive key that takes up less vertical space.

They are a v2 of the MacBook keyboards, and I believe they said that the v2 has more travel compared to the v1. That's what the OP is saying.

Not sure how that v2 would compare to the current MacBook Pro keyboards.

It's unclear whether they said it had more travel or felt like it. I understood the latter.

Key elevation != key travel. The keys themselves are near flush with the base, but travel is longer than on the MacBook "Adorable" (MB 12").

that's interesting, I could have sworn I heard them say it had more travel distance, or maybe it was the impression of more travel.

I thought they said it had more travel than the butterfly keyboard that's used in the macbook without name. I mean the super thin 12" one they came up with last year.

Those new keytops had better pop off as easily as the old ones do, or I won't be able to Dvorakify the keyboard.

The non-Touch Pro is perfect... except for the lack of ports. If it had 4 USB-C and/or USB/HDMI/etc posts it'd be awesome.

USB-C can run a straight pin out to HDMI now, so you would just have to carry a cable, not a dongle and a cable.

http://www.hdmi.org/manufacturer/HDMIAltModeUSBTypeC.aspx

Ah, I love the "low end" of $1500 per machine.

You can use USB C for charging and datatransfer at the same time. Most USB C docks can charge your device.

> and it has two thunderbolt ports.

On the same side, not good.

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