Say I really side with an issue that is on the Republican platform, gun rights for example. We've come to the point lately where that just means I must also be a racist, homophobe, bigot. Guilt by association. Even to the point of people losing their job or life over it.
Really? We think that's OK? Then in this case she's doing it simply because he has money and gave it to said candidate?
On the reverse I've seen some people with the "pot should be legal" argument get completely put down by some on the more conservative side saying they must also be for free everything!! Which isn't always the case.
Well, being as wealthy as Thiel is basically frees you from the day to day realities of being discriminated against.
I'm not saying minorities who are rich aren't also victims of prejudice and such, but when you are rich and relatively famous (and any kind of minority) you are very unlikely to be openly discriminated against the same way a "commoner" minority will be.
... which makes his support for Trump seem even more selfish to me.
I would remind you that the chief claim in US v. Windsor was about the tax implications of a lesbian wedding not recognized at the federal level, which incurred a higher estate tax penalty (to the tune of ~$380,000) which is unconstitutional under the 14th.
That seems exactly like something that Peter Thiel probably cares about if he ever chooses to marry.
I mean, I see more hateful things being said to celebrities than just about anyone else.
More like being murdered for being gay or black or ... and the police refusing (sometimes openly) to investigate, which used to happen well into the 1960s in the US.
Sure, when it comes to hateful semi-anonymous bad things said about people on twitter or whatever, celebrities are prime targets (and that kind of sucks, celebrities are people too), but I'm more thinking about active physical-world types of discrimination, the kind that end up with you being beaten, possibly killed, or just denied otherwise deserved opportunities.
Being rich/famous doesn't guarantee you won't suffer from that sort of discrimination, but anecdotally it does appear to lessen the chances by a great deal.
A person worth north of 2 billion does not risk being discriminated against.
As far as I'm concerned, the Clintons (Bill signed the "Defense of Marriage Act" in the first place) are the anti-gay ones (and add Obama to that too)
Not all of us are gullible to the blatant pandering and fear mongering democrats engage in.
While during the Bush years there was some stupid asinine anti-gay rhetoric from Bush, nothing was even attempted.
But it was the Clintons who banned gay marriage. That's all when I stopped being a democrat.
That's an -odd- comparison. One is about gay marriage, and one is about people being gay.
Trump is perfectly capable of having no issue with someone being gay AND being against their right to marriage.
And realistically? What's worse for you as a gay person - Donald's -personal- beliefs, or those he advocates as a policy?
http://www.politifact.com/new-york/statements/2016/aug/14/se...
Besides, Trump has said a lot of things that contradict other things he's said, and gay marriage is one of those:
"I am not in favor of gay marriage."
For someone affected by such things, you really should be more informed.
[1]: http://www.pewforum.org/2016/05/12/changing-attitudes-on-gay...
So you have a slightly moving, changing Democrat party; and complete bigotry then and still now in the Republican party. Yet you stopped being a Democrat based on this vote? That's fine, but it's completely absurd.
Democrats are the conservative party, and have always had to be dragged kicking and screaming to get anything progressive done in all of history. It does not make sense you'd use DOMA as the point in time to switch to the crazy party. You know, the bat shit insane where it's OK to "get away" with gawking at girls getting dressed in the changing room, but it's perverse for a female identifying transgender to take a piss in the women's bathroom - something that's been happening for a very long time without anyone giving two shits until Republicans got a fucking clue it was happening.
Surely you haven't already forgotten the rise in anti-trans discriminatory legislation in recent years? Do you think Trump and his supporters are the type to not support those? Which party is it that's been at the forefront of anti-discriminatory legislation and equal protection in general?
It sucks that the first past the post voting system of ours all but guarantees that we must choose between the lesser of two evils to avoid throwing our vote away, but what else are you going to do? A vote for a third party is a vote that increases the probability of a Trump presidency.
On top of this, Mike Pence has promised to roll back the Obama administration's use of the EEOC and Title IX to protect trans rights against discrimination.
I'm voting Democratic for my very survival.
Does anyone else remember that time?