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You still have to trust that the encryption is indeed E2E as they claim, no?

I mean, whatsapp claims it has E2E encryption, but I've never checked...

https://whispersystems.org/blog/whatsapp-complete/

I'm not sure what parts you can verify, but I'm willing to trust the word of those at Whisper. Perhaps I'm naive but they seem to genuinely care about improving privacy for others.

This comment also shows that privacy is always based on trust. Trusting Cisco, Google, Microsoft, OpenSSL devs, Whisper Systems, whatever. You can decide who's more sympathetic, moxie, Zuckerberg, Nadella..

That was exactly the point I was trying to make when I responded to someone saying "well, with E2E encryption you don't have to trust them". Yes you do.

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