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Soros is directly responsible for massive increases in rape in Germany and Sweden, as well as encouraging terrorism in the west with his compulsive promotion of immigration of unsuitable people.

It's noticeable that he does not promote Syrian immigration to Israel, which is next door and has taken in zero refugees, and instead uses all of his resources to force Western countries to accept thousands of young unaccompanied men with violent backgrounds.

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In order to address (at least partially) the "statistics says otherwise" response to your comment, here are some interesting links:

They are a result of duckduckgoing for "<country> coverup immigrant sex assaults"

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jan/13/sex-as...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/germany/120...

Claim: There has been a recent upswing in Islamist terrorism in Europe that coincidences with the migrant situation.

Citations:

- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents_in...

- http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-33288542

- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_Germany

Those sources provide timelines that show massive increases in 2015-2016. The details of some of those attacks would turn your stomach, too -- like the guy in Nice, France who drove a truck through a celebrating crowd while shouting "Allahu Akbar!"

Is there a source for this? What you're saying is quite.. radical and unsubstantiated.

Also while a considerably debatable topic, refugees are going/intending to go more or less where they want. It's not that you can force countries like Israel to take them.

There's either a falsity or serious misunderstanding of facts in each one of your sentences.

>> Soros is directly responsible for massive increases in rape

No, he isn't. Your entire post is inflammatory, and makes unsubstantiated and lurid claims that contribute nothing to a debate about a deep and difficult international problem.

He's saying that Soros directly supports policy that forces countries to accept migrants. Historically, alongside massive inflows of migrants there have been tremendous rises in violent crime and sexual assault in Northern European countries. As a prime example, take a look at related data for Sweden.

www.nsfk.org/Portals/0/nordicstats_1950-2000.pdf

Sweden changed its statistical method quite a bit (eg counting each 'act' within a rape separately), that, together with much more awareness of sexual violence and a campaign and social changes encouraging victims and witnesses to report things had a huge effect on the statistics. Wikipedia has a decent-ish summary of the changes. Sweden doesn't collect data on perpetrator background or similar, so literally all of the articles in (primarily Anglophone) right wing media claiming statistics on that are simply made up. That being said, I'd not be surprised if numbers went up with an increase young single men, but the data simply does not exist to prove either way. The natural tendency is to guess the correct interpretation and read it onto the data, but it simply is not there.

The paper you tried to link to didn't draw any connection between immigration and rape. The increased number of reported rapes in Sweden in the late nineties could be explained in a number of ways. One is that reporting increased thanks to increased awareness, another is legislative change, a third is revision of statistical routines. The two latter are mentioned in the paper.

Another thing that complicates a comparison:

"The Swedish data tend to lie at a higher level than that of the other countries (von Hofer, 2000). This is due to several factors: 1) in Sweden, a criminal offence is registered at the point that it is reported; 2) reported acts that later prove to be non-offences are not removed from the statistics; and, 3) all offences listed on the same police report or committed on the same occasion (or in a series) appear as separate offences in Swedish statistics. Thus, the number of offences counted in Sweden is more comprehensive than in the other Nordic countries." (p. 7)

Your post is even worse, all it contains is "no"

> Soros is directly responsible for massive increases in rape in Germany and Sweden

There is no massive increase of rape, neither in Germany nor in Sweden. Look up the actual statistics.

As a German who follows this thing very closely, I'm afraid this is not true. At least in my city, there is a vastly unproportional amount of sexual crimes committed by refugees. I know that's as uncomfortable as it gets. But as a pure fact it is true, independent of any political affiliation.

As a fellow German please remember that these cases are reported more than 'normal' rape cases. It's a simple case of sample/selection, the most visible cases seem more frequent, thus more people focus on them, thus they get reported more. Think of the Russo-German girl in Berlin, where it turns out it was all just a false report (girl ran away from home and didn't want her parents angry when she came back, so claimed to have been abducted...), This was played ridiculously out of proportion, largely because Russian-funded media threw itself behind this case, even long after it was debunked.

Tl;dr: what is salient seems more frequent. Just like people think shark attacks and plane crashes are much more frequent than they are.

That might be the case if you follow this topic superficially on a national or continental level. But if you actually look at every single newspaper article and police report, I think you can get a pretty neutral look. And to be honest, a bias in the other direction is more than obvious in many cases. In my city it's almost common practice by newspapers to censor information like "Arabic speaking" from police search reports. Let that sink in.

But I agree that you have to be careful, but both ways.

That's the backlash you have since media didn't report any problems with asylum seekers in the beginning. How long did it took the german state TV to report about the events on last sylvester? IIRC about 4 days in today's world with Facebook, Twitter, E-Mail and Smartphones... They even had to apologize for that.

BTW in Austria statistics show that non-citizens and asylum seekers are way over-represented in most criminal statistics, e.g. drug selling and violence.

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