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Uber finally threw up the white flag in its fight against Didi in China. I wonder how big of a dent this puts in Uber's sheen of invincibility in other markets. Will investors be braver backing other regional competitors like Ola in India and Lyft in the US?

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China is a whole different market. Nothing can be extrapolated from China. Amazon lost in China, but is doing well in India.

And of course infamously Google and Facebook dominate most of the planet, but can't compete in China (and Baidu can't manage to do much outside of China).

It'd be more accurate to say they weren't allowed to compete in China.

Its even worse than that: Myanmar, Cambodia, Vietnam, ... most of China's neighbors who are just getting into the internet now...are strictly Facebook/Google territory, Chinese internet companies can't even compete in their backyard.

Do they need to, though? The Chinese market is so unbelievably huge that expanding into these small neighboring countries might not be worth the effort.

Well, why go for a market of 6 billion (people not living in China) when you can go for 1.3 billion (people living in China)? If Facebook becomes popular around the world, and only China and North Korea have locked it out, what does that say about China?

Are u kidding? Those Chinese private companies are not charity. For the countries you mentioned, Myanmar, Cambodia, Vietnam, their market is too small, their population's income is too low, compared with the investment. Why would they care about them? Meanwhile, did you hear Chinese cellphone, mobile games are so popular in Vietnam and India?

You are probably right. Western companies think long term, not about profit today but profit tomorrow. Chinese software companies don't have that luxury of longer term thinking given the environment they are in.

Amazon is doing quite well in China, we buy things from it often. They aren't #1, but they haven't failed and are probably even making some money.

Have you tried jd.com? cheaper and better return policy.

We use them all, actually.

My experience was that Amazon is generally cheaper. But yes, JD's return policy is better, and they deliver faster.

Amazon is also slowly pulling AWS from Beijing http://www.amazonaws.cn/en/new/2016/announcing-operating-rel...

Amazon is doing...OK. Even with Taobao/Tianmao, it is still relevant in China, and Kindle is the still the leader of E-reader market.

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