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Well, if God tell you so, you shouldn't eat that sandwich. If you are familiar with chain of trust in computer security, Muslims have something similar for the Quran, there are hundred or thousands of peoples alive today who will give the names of their Quran teachers until your reach the Prophet, this will give you thousands of chains, with the exact Quran script, all people on this "chains" memories the Quran letter by letter. In that script God tell Muslim to fast as Christian an Jewish did before them.

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God told me to never eat anything. Where is the distinction between mentally ill and religious?

You'll find that Ramadan is quite reasonable if you actually understood it.

Don't I?

Religion is more in the domain of cultural evolution than people speaking directly to god. Islam is a continuation of Christianity and Judaism and you can trace that back even further.

To a, presumably, educated person like yourself, yes, religion is likely more in the domain cultural evolution. Can the same be said for all? Many would claim to have a personal relationship with their deity(ies).

In my experience growing in a muslim country -- most moderates understand this and imply it without explicitly saying it. And most of the education and the scholarship happening in Islam focuses on the Madhab, fatwa, hadeeth, and interpretation. All of which is merely people using their best judgement to supplement and evolve religion.

Of course, fundamentalists -- as apparent from the name -- read things very literally and "speak" or "hear" directly from God.

I appreciate the civil discussion and insight.

What is prayer if not speaking directly to a deity?

I can only speak for moderate sunni islam -- a lot of it is meditation and not very different from how yoga is practiced in the west. People gathered together in a room doing repetitive movements and sounds. The only bit of talking to God is when people "ask" for things. And It's not as prevalent in islam to ask for things as it is I think in christianity.

As an atheist, and someone critical of religion and its practices elsewhere in this thread, your faith seems quite reasonable. The notion of "ignorance breeds fear" is at play somewhere here.

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